Sorry, I meant that’s how we should have started vs London.

Was it 2004 when we had a patched up squad that lost in the play offs to Wakey? Cooke was playing on 1 leg. 07 we got Head in to replace Cooke who was good when he played, but that was the problem, he struggled with knee problems

I’m still not convinced you can prevent a lot of injuries. Ruptured muscles and tendons, ligament damage, head knocks, broken fingers and shoulders etc are all very hard to prevent. S and C and fitness can help muscle strength and flexibility, but I do think we’ve just have incredibly bad luck with players and their fitness in recent years - as well as probably signing players with underlying injury issues in Trueman and Walker for example.

It really has been a perfect storm for us.

I think we are ultimately paying the price for 2 consecutive very poor preseasons under Smith and again under Hodgson where players just haven't been prepared for the rigors of a season of SL rugby. On top of that this season we in the most part have been playing a lightweight 17 due to failures in the recruitment and our very poor discipline on the field compounds everything playing so many games a man down etc. Its inevitable that once one of two injuries started to bite it would have a snowball affect based on all the factors and the fact there's been very little genuine desire on show and getting beat every week.

The downfall started in 2018, a bit unfortunate in 2020 where we recruited well, then covid hit, had we got the right coach with that squad we could have turned the corner.

Connor
Swift
Griffin
Carlos
Ratu
Kelly
Sneyd
Taylor
Houghton
Sao
Jones
Ma'u
Ellis

Satae
Savelio
Fash
Cator

Thats not a perfect 17, bench is a bit week, but it's miles ahead of where are and a play off team with the right coach.

Is Grix taking the pl$$!? What about every other club?

Asked about the no relegation factor and how it's impacting his players, Grix replied: "Maybe that's part of the problem, not having that jeopardy. I know a lot of fans would like it (Super League promotion and relegation) but we all signed up to something different, didn't we? That's really fortunate for us at the moment otherwise we are having those chats about your job being on the line properly."

Granted a few have gone but they should have been having those conversations all season!!!

I am despondent about saturday, of course. But my point was misery doesnt progress a club that needs help Of course im unhappy about performances but just moaning is not the answer. Imagine if Grix went in to a big sulk and said do what you want till the end of the season. I am still hopeful about a new coach and signings for next season. Sharing misery which i rarely do is compounding it. its understandable just no use whatsoever

Well that was a poop show

Watching it, from behind my pillow because it was such a horror show. How has AP let it get this bad?

Is it (like some have said) he's just ran out of money?

Is it (like others have said) he's used the no relegation situation to skimp out this year to consolidate the finances? And over the last few seasons, cut back due to the COVID loan?

Or did he really think he was getting quality players?

Whatever or whichever it is, I think it's fair to say most and I mean a large percentage of fans have had enough now.

Let's hope we do have someone coming in to pump some serious money into the club, we need it.

All that being said , well don't to London, deserved the win,.much better than us (as I've said a few times,.we have been by far the worst side in the comp this year). What's worrying more so is, if London played like they did, against any other side in the league, they lost...yet they played us and won!

Hit.Rock.Bottom.

Apart from Ese-ese I'm struggling to pick who out of our current team would make that 17.

I think you are being premature. Wait until we play Wigan.