FORUMS FORUMS




  

Home The Virtual Terrace The Salary cap should be scrapped



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 34 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: The Salary cap should be scrapped
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 6:16 am 
Club Captain
First Team Player

Joined: Aug 14 2020
Posts: 1390
Cokey wrote:For me, the cap needs to be raised,( by how much, I'm not sure). We need to be able to keep our top quality players, and also attract more quality players from the NRL. It's important that we can get as much quality on show as possible to put more bums on seats. If anything, this would allow other teams, apart from Wigan & Saints, to catch up to their level, and seriously challenge for honours.


If you want more quality on show "scrap the cap".To get more NRL you would have to raise the cap to match theirs, in real terms would be practically getting rid of the cap.
Ultimately it is upto the clubs owners/backers to manage the finances of said club.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: The Salary cap should be scrapped
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 6:53 am 
Club Owner
Club Owner
User avatar

Joined: Aug 19 2011
Posts: 22083
Location: Across The Universe....... Jai guru deva om - Nothings gonna change my world.
Jason65 wrote:If you want more quality on show "scrap the cap".To get more NRL you would have to raise the cap to match theirs, in real terms would be practically getting rid of the cap.
Ultimately it is upto the clubs owners/backers to manage the finances of said club.


TBH - I don't think they're going to scrap the cap, but increasing it significantly would give us some kind of measure to where it should be, and give us a guide to see if it needed tweaking any further.






Image

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: The Salary cap should be scrapped
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:25 am 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Jun 01 2007
Posts: 12672
Location: Leicestershire.
I’ve mixed feelings about it.

We’re certainly asking the cap to fix too many problems. Competitive balance, financial stability, even propping up the academy system. And scrapping it would at least spare us the nonsense about ‘great culture’ and it all being about ‘developing your own players’.

However, moving from the outcome of the season being drearily predictable to a higher proportion of games being non-contests would still be a big step. If Wigan are winning by 40, 50, 60 nearly every week, only ever challenged by Saints you’d think the best players might eventually want to go elsewhere (i.e. the NRL) for a challenge.

Ultimately I suspect it’d have to lead to greater change. Possibly fewer, bigger teams - and we all know how popular the idea of mergers is. But I feel like we’re already on the edge of what is tolerable for predictability.






'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: The Salary cap should be scrapped
PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:35 am 
International Star
Fringe Player
User avatar

Joined: Aug 17 2014
Posts: 768
To scrap the cap would also have to unrestrict overseas quota. both are self defeating policies. you want people to watch the game then offer them the best product.
More people watching is increased revenues and increase in kids wanting to play. Grass roots will not grow if the pinnicale of the sport is not attractive






Lifelong supporter, marching on together

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: The Salary cap should be scrapped
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:56 pm 
Academy Player
Academy Player

Joined: Sep 07 2023
Posts: 320
LeedsLurch wrote:To scrap the cap would also have to unrestrict overseas quota.


Lol what?

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: The Salary cap should be scrapped
PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:29 pm 
First Team Player
Fringe Player
User avatar

Joined: Dec 17 2020
Posts: 537
RobRiches wrote:I’ve said the exact same thing on these forums for the last 10 years.

Usually Wakefield or Leigh fans that disagreed with me but Wakefield will probably have changed their tune now they have a bit of cash.

If Wigans billionaire owner wants to splash his cash he should be allowed to. He shouldn’t be held back because wasters like Leigh. Hull fc and Salford might get upset


If Huddersfield were successful, they may get 5000 fans. If Hull are , stick 10k on that figure and Leigh have been a breath of fresh air, winning The Challenge Cup. I think your club's current plight is testament to the fact that you can spend hugely on players, but that is not going to win you trophies, until your club culture and coaching can match the ambition,

I

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: The Salary cap should be scrapped
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 2:19 pm 
Fringe Player
Junior Player

Joined: Mar 21 2022
Posts: 102
I see I'm a bit late to this conversation, but scrapping the cap WILL increase the gaps between Teams. There are some that can't even afford the full cap.

I was told that Featherstone were top spenders last season in the Championship but could only spent about £1m in salaries which is ridiculous.

The NFL is a perfect example of the salary cap working. All of those Teams can afford the $255m cap spend, but they still have to make the right decisions about players and coaches. Wigan have just made the best decisions so far, with Warrington, Hull KR, Saints, even Hull FC and probably some others still having the financial means to compete. They just haven't made better decisions on personnel compared to Wigan.

There are already 3 major dispensations for clubs to be able to spend over the £2.1m cap.

On a personal note, as a Wire fan, I'd love to win the Grand Final, but purely on merit. It would be great to spend above and beyond the cap to bring in world class talent and even take away the best from teams lower down the table. But if we won the GF, people would say that we bought the league, and I don't want that. If we do actually win the GF, I don't want anyone to be able to question it. Same for any other Team that can break the 4-club cycle.

We need all clubs in the English system to actually be able to spend £2.1m first. It's on them to make the right decisions, and then we increase it over time. But that only happens when the Sport grows, which I'm still waiting on IMG to sort out.






Kinetic Rugby League YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@KineticRL

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: The Salary cap should be scrapped
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:49 pm 
Club Coach
First Team Player
User avatar

Joined: Oct 13 2004
Posts: 1776
Location: Pudsey
If you lose the cap you've got to ban Director's loans. Falling out with folk and immediately asking for their loan to be repaid has caused financial crashes many times in the past.
If a Director puts money in...it has to stay in.






Rorke's Drift.........1879 or 1914?

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: The Salary cap should be scrapped
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 9:14 pm 
Academy Player
Academy Player

Joined: Sep 07 2023
Posts: 320
GrahamBray wrote:If Huddersfield were successful, they may get 5000 fans. If Hull are , stick 10k on that figure and Leigh have been a breath of fresh air, winning The Challenge Cup. I think your club's current plight is testament to the fact that you can spend hugely on players, but that is not going to win you trophies, until your club culture and coaching can match the ambition,

I


That literally had nothing to do with the post of mine you quoted ????

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: The Salary cap should be scrapped
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 9:16 pm 
Academy Player
Academy Player

Joined: Sep 07 2023
Posts: 320
bobm wrote:If you lose the cap you've got to ban Director's loans. Falling out with folk and immediately asking for their loan to be repaid has caused financial crashes many times in the past.
If a Director puts money in...it has to stay in.


Well said. I’ve said for 10 years if an owner wants to put money in they should follow the football league protocols. It can’t go in as a loan, it goes in and a donation within the profit and loss account

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 34 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next





It is currently Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:08 am


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 104 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron

It is currently Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:08 am
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
47m
The Bench - Kris Radlinski
MAC25
4
Recent
New Screen
Bent&Bon
13
Recent
Superleague
The Reaper
21
Recent
Salford Supermarket Sweep
Bent&Bon
92
Recent
Leeds v Wakefield
Once were Lo
187
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
3096
Recent
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
Jake the Peg
346
Recent
Wigan Warriors - Home
Jake the Peg
25
Recent
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41748
Recent
Film game
karetaker
7862
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
65119
Recent
Amateur Rugby in Bradford
Bulls Boy 20
98
Recent
RL fans on mobiles
ALAW
46
Recent
Super League Prediction Competition
katevans11
2
Recent
Todays match v Giants
ninearches
102
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3s
Film game
karetaker
7862
6s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
B0NES
5050
11s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
3096
17s
TV Games - Not Hull
mwindass
3296
21s
Wigan Warriors - Home
Jake the Peg
25
25s
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
65119
39s
Leeds away first up
BarnsleyGull
455
42s
Recruitment rumours and links
Abe Froman
3917
43s
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
Jake the Peg
346
46s
Social Media
Dr Dreadnoug
33
1m
Leigh h
apollosghost
98
1m
Rumours and signings v9
endoman
29252
1m
Leeds v Wakefield
Once were Lo
187
1m
2024 l Academy Scholarship & Reserves News
ArthurClues
232
2m
New Screen
Bent&Bon
13
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Vs Warrington
Murphy
2
TODAY
Who is available
Droopy
4
TODAY
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 2
FoxyRhino
2
TODAY
The Bench - Kris Radlinski
MAC25
4
TODAY
Other Championship Teams
Pyrah123
4
TODAY
Pele
Pyrah123
3
TODAY
lilley
paulwalker71
6
TODAY
Huddersfield H
RugbyEgg
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors - Home
Jake the Peg
25
TODAY
Goole Vikings
Rugby Raider
5
TODAY
Next week v Fev
Victor
5
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Off To A Winning Start Over the Huddersfield Giants
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Ronan Michael podcast
Bullseye
1
TODAY
Superleague
The Reaper
21
TODAY
Todays match v Giants
ninearches
102
TODAY
Salford
Another Cas
16
TODAY
Stats thread
Shifty Cat
4
TODAY
IMG
Deadcowboys1
6
TODAY
St Helens Record Highest Winning Margin In Super League As They Thrash Salford
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Next round of Challenge Cup
Bully_Boxer
3
TODAY
Challenge cup draw
Big lads mat
12
TODAY
Challenge Cup 2025 - Fourth Round Draw
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Off To A Win..
269
St Helens Record Highest Winni..
417
Challenge Cup 2025 - Fourth Ro..
710
Wakefield Trinity Mark Return ..
485
Hull FC Start Season With Big ..
296
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Poin..
559
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
775
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
770
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
823
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
750
Betfred Super League Season Se..
972
Thirteen Try York Knights Set ..
940
Comfortable Ash Handley Testim..
1583
Workington Town Set Up Leigh L..
1369
Historic Goole Vikings Win Ove..
1432
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington - Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
Sun 16th Feb
SL 1 Huddersfield12-20Warrington
CH 1 Bradford20-6LondonB
CH 1 Featherstone22-4Doncaster
CH 1 Oldham50-4York
CH 1 Sheffield14-28Halifax
CH 1 Barrow36-12Hunslet
1895 0 Goole V26-18Crusaders
1895 0 Workington10-18Dewsbury
1895 0 Rochdale18-16Swinton
1895 0 Keighley7-6Midlands
Sat 15th Feb
SL1 Leeds12-14Wakefield
SL 1 St.Helens82-0Salford
CH 1 Toulouse14-18Widnes
Fri 14th Feb
SL 1 Hull KR19-18Castleford
SL 1 Catalans4-24Hull FC
Thu 13th Feb
SL 1 Wigan0-1Leigh
Sun 9th Feb
CC2025 3 Bradford18-16Castleford
CC2025 3 Featherstone68-0Ince R
CC2025 3 Hunslet6-34Huddersfield
CC2025 3 Midlands10-46Salford
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
47m
The Bench - Kris Radlinski
MAC25
4
Recent
New Screen
Bent&Bon
13
Recent
Superleague
The Reaper
21
Recent
Salford Supermarket Sweep
Bent&Bon
92
Recent
Leeds v Wakefield
Once were Lo
187
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
3096
Recent
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
Jake the Peg
346
Recent
Wigan Warriors - Home
Jake the Peg
25
Recent
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41748
Recent
Film game
karetaker
7862
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
65119
Recent
Amateur Rugby in Bradford
Bulls Boy 20
98
Recent
RL fans on mobiles
ALAW
46
Recent
Super League Prediction Competition
katevans11
2
Recent
Todays match v Giants
ninearches
102
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3s
Film game
karetaker
7862
6s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
B0NES
5050
11s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
3096
17s
TV Games - Not Hull
mwindass
3296
21s
Wigan Warriors - Home
Jake the Peg
25
25s
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
65119
39s
Leeds away first up
BarnsleyGull
455
42s
Recruitment rumours and links
Abe Froman
3917
43s
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
Jake the Peg
346
46s
Social Media
Dr Dreadnoug
33
1m
Leigh h
apollosghost
98
1m
Rumours and signings v9
endoman
29252
1m
Leeds v Wakefield
Once were Lo
187
1m
2024 l Academy Scholarship & Reserves News
ArthurClues
232
2m
New Screen
Bent&Bon
13
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Vs Warrington
Murphy
2
TODAY
Who is available
Droopy
4
TODAY
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 2
FoxyRhino
2
TODAY
The Bench - Kris Radlinski
MAC25
4
TODAY
Other Championship Teams
Pyrah123
4
TODAY
Pele
Pyrah123
3
TODAY
lilley
paulwalker71
6
TODAY
Huddersfield H
RugbyEgg
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors - Home
Jake the Peg
25
TODAY
Goole Vikings
Rugby Raider
5
TODAY
Next week v Fev
Victor
5
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Off To A Winning Start Over the Huddersfield Giants
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Ronan Michael podcast
Bullseye
1
TODAY
Superleague
The Reaper
21
TODAY
Todays match v Giants
ninearches
102
TODAY
Salford
Another Cas
16
TODAY
Stats thread
Shifty Cat
4
TODAY
IMG
Deadcowboys1
6
TODAY
St Helens Record Highest Winning Margin In Super League As They Thrash Salford
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Next round of Challenge Cup
Bully_Boxer
3
TODAY
Challenge cup draw
Big lads mat
12
TODAY
Challenge Cup 2025 - Fourth Round Draw
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Off To A Win..
269
St Helens Record Highest Winni..
417
Challenge Cup 2025 - Fourth Ro..
710
Wakefield Trinity Mark Return ..
485
Hull FC Start Season With Big ..
296
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Poin..
559
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
775
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
770
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
823
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
750
Betfred Super League Season Se..
972
Thirteen Try York Knights Set ..
940
Comfortable Ash Handley Testim..
1583
Workington Town Set Up Leigh L..
1369
Historic Goole Vikings Win Ove..
1432


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.