Jake the Peg wrote:we don't know what's going on behind the scenes so hard to comment but losing the french would be a big mistake for me. Some of these clubs obviously rely on away support. I wonder what they would do with the numbers that travel over to both Hull clubs
It's not sustainable just to rely on away support, the number of fans travelling away seems to have decreased a lot in recent years, FC don't take as many away fans as they did in the late 2000s/2010s. Clubs should focus on selling our their home ends before relying on away fans buying a few pies and beers.
I don't buy the argument that fans aren't going to Magic weekend/the cc final because they go to Catalan either. Many people combine their annual holiday with a trip to catalan, I won't be spending a week in Huddersfield to combine it with a Hull away fixture, and the reason I'm not going to magic this year is because it's in a ground with nothing to do around it, no magic about it. If it was in Cardiff, Edinburgh or somewhere like Dublin I'd go, but Leeds has no appeal for me, it's a tired ground with no leg room and nothing around it...me going to Catalan in February had no sway in my decision not to attend. Toulouse are the only championship team to have a TV deal, and there is also a TV deal in France to show Catalans games, kick them out and both those deals are gone I'd imagine
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Jake the Peg wrote:elland road is a dump and the surrounding area has nothing. No idea why anyone thought it would be popular with fans
It’s more than likely because the RFL got a cheap deal to hold it there, if the RFL had any thought or idea what the fans want they wouldn’t have held it at Elland Rd. Problem is the RFL have no idea whatsoever and partly why the game is in the state it’s in.
It’s the only sport that seems to consistently shoot itself in the foot with poor and ill conceived ideas etc.
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Chris71 wrote:It’s more than likely because the RFL got a cheap deal to hold it there, if the RFL had any thought or idea what the fans want they wouldn’t have held it at Elland Rd. Problem is the RFL have no idea whatsoever and partly why the game is in the state it’s in.
It’s the only sport that seems to consistently shoot itself in the foot with poor and ill conceived ideas etc.
Because it's managed by amateurs and people protecting their own interests
Chris71 wrote:It’s more than likely because the RFL got a cheap deal to hold it there, if the RFL had any thought or idea what the fans want they wouldn’t have held it at Elland Rd. Problem is the RFL have no idea whatsoever and partly why the game is in the state it’s in.
It’s the only sport that seems to consistently shoot itself in the foot with poor and ill conceived ideas etc.
Agreed I think the rfl probably got it on the cheap and thought they could make a quick buck as they think that if it's slap bang in the middle of the m62 more fans will come, when I think it'll likely be the opposite, to me it just seems like another bog standard away game rather than a special event that magic should be. The purpose of magic originally was to promote super League in potential new markets like Cardiff, Edinburgh and Newcastle, it worked at the Etihad too, Anfield was an awful venue for it, very similar to Elland road in that it's away from the city centre, the area around it is a dump and there's no leg room in the seats.
Either magic weekend is kept and held in new venues away from the heartlands to spread the game or it's scrapped if it's just going to be held at elland road, as currently it's just another loop fixture
If this is true, then what a joke. Ok there wasn't a lot of love for IMG's grading etc however it was decided that, it was the way to go. So to change theor minds again is one of the many reasons RL looks amateurish and not something not to invest in. We have chosen the grading, it won't make everyone happy, but nothing will. No point in having plan if you don't follow through with it.
On the subject of Magic weekend, if you aren't going to take it to places that aren't massive on rugby, try and expand the game, then knock it on the head.
I'd go with 14 teams (IF they are 14 that can hit the criteria) get rid of loop games and magic weekends.
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It should be 14 teams play each other twice plus Magic and get rid of the loop fixtures. We've played Warrington three times already but haven't played Salford or Wigan yet. I'd also introduce the Yorkshire and Lancashire cup as pre season trophies, 16 in each up to the clubs how serious they take it but majority of the time we play Yorkshire clubs in pre season anyways.
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Ellam wrote:It should be 14 teams play each other twice plus Magic and get rid of the loop fixtures. We've played Warrington three times already but haven't played Salford or Wigan yet. I'd also introduce the Yorkshire and Lancashire cup as pre season trophies, 16 in each up to the clubs how serious they take it but majority of the time we play Yorkshire clubs in pre season anyways.
Scheduling is something they need to look at, we also played Leeds twice in a row at home. Know it's hard to get it completely even with stadiums having pitch work derby games needing to be at Easter etc but surely having teams play each other once each 'half' of a season isn't that hard.
Also on the broadcasting lowlights include the BBC showing a semi against the Premier League final day (even 2 hours earlier kickoff would have helped there) this weekend they've out put an England game on against the Euros and that's probably a factor in not getting it on TV (Friday night is a night off for the Euros) Hard to avoid every event I know but the game needs to get sharper at it
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