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Agree with that.
In 2006 and early 2007 it felt like success was slipping away too quickly after the great stride made in 2004, especially when we had a dominant side for most of 2005 that inexplicably lost the Challenge Cup and GF.
Joined: Dec 19 2004 Posts: 24536 Location: in bed between halle berry and jennifer aniston
andrew dunneman told me about the training. he said come the GF they had nothing left to give. he didn't understand why as 2004 he rotated and rested all season until the last 2 games, so everyone was fresh.
I'm glad he noticed GH's 'competitive' comment, because it explains a lot about where the lack of desperation to win things comes from. It really did sound like the lame excuse it is. In reality we're close to the bottom of a group of teams that compete amongst themselves. Its not true that Wigan and Sts are part of that general competitive pack - just like the Leeds of the Golden Generation those two sides will not be beaten when it counts by any of those second tier teams.
As for Rohan's nonsense about 'promise' after Hull, I got the feeling he just threw that in as he had nothing else to say. The problem isn't just Rohan in those instances, its the media not asking tough questions. At some stage someone has to call out appalling performances for what they are.
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I'm glad he noticed GH's 'competitive' comment, because it explains a lot about where the lack of desperation to win things comes from. It really did sound like the lame excuse it is. In reality we're close to the bottom of a group of teams that compete amongst themselves. Its not true that Wigan and Sts are part of that general competitive pack - just like the Leeds of the Golden Generation those two sides will not be beaten when it counts by any of those second tier teams.
As for Rohan's nonsense about 'promise' after Hull, I got the feeling he just threw that in as he had nothing else to say. The problem isn't just Rohan in those instances, its the media not asking tough questions. At some stage someone has to call out appalling performances for what they are.
Yes fully agree.And even Peter smith has been quite stinging in his comments column this week
I am a big Holroyd fan but he has been out of condition or form for a good while now, he can't seem to string a run together. Really disappointing season so far - not just the injuries but when he has played he has been a culprit of our error-a-thon.
There is still a very good player in there but for various reasons we're not seeing it.
Sangare - on the right money could be worth retaining as a squad prop. He is massive which has use. He gets terrible service sometimes (Cam Smith gives him the odd hospital pass). Also not really mobile enough to run his weight and be as damaging as we'd all like.
Newman is very athletic n but he isn't playing well, especially since his back injury and I wonder if he's carrying knocks.
I think generally the squad is in a bit of a funk, losing games can do that and the confidence has been affected. I think the solution is to sign a handful of higher quality players and probably change the coaching set up, but to do that we'd have to move a couple of players on early. Blease is going to have to be creative to get Leeds into a truly challenging position for 2025, but I don't believe the current squad is a title winning squad and we are all sick to death of Leeds being the laughing stock of SL after many years of this.
I think with Newman with a better coach and attacking structure, he can be much better. I think if you put Newman in a Wigan, Saints or Salford side, you would see a far better player.
You may be right re. Newman but the coach isn't making him drop the ball or try to beat the entire opposition on his own every time he gets the ball. Newman needs to learn how to play with his team mates better - maybe that's a coaching issue too but I think he's always been a bit of a glory boy. He just needs reining in a bit at times - he would look better running into space with some structure agreed.
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