Ilkley Fax wrote:Widdop put in plenty of effort, but really he can only play 1, 6 or 7, and I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking that JWH, Keyes and Jouffret if fit should fill thise positions. What was painfully obvious was that although Widdop still has a good rugby brain, his complete lack of pace means he doesn't pose any threat whatsoever, especially when playing at fullback. Wouldn't have a problem with him on the bench as he obviously provides cover for these positions. Don't know if Finn is told he must play Widdop, really hope we stop this messing around with 3 of our best players just to accommodate him.
I think the big thing with Widdop is that he has mainly played behind dominant packs and like any half back when he has been behind a poor pack he has struggled. Ive no doubt if we had a very good pack he would have been a great signing for us but you just can't get away from the fact we spent a fortune on a player in a position that we did not need whilst ignoring positions where we are light. By all accounts this signing was somewhat forced apon Finn along with the Greg Eden signing.
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For just a suggestion of how much Widdop is allegedly being paid, if you can put up with listening to and believe anything Mick Gledhill says, check out the Full 80 minutes “Assessing the Championship Club Season” from Feb 21st 2024.
Whilst not saying the exact amount the figure hinted at even had one of the other hosts saying “surely it can’t be as much as xxx k” with MG nodding oh yes it could.
My info has RD being particularly keen to get the Gaz deal over the line. When it first surfaced on a brief online chat interchange with RD I mentioned asked / suggested that having achieved so much in the game that to go out playing for your home town club could be another important milestone / achievement and if there was any chance / truth in it.
The reply was, “ If not it wouldn’t be for the lack of trying.”
faxcar wrote:For just a suggestion of how much Widdop is allegedly being paid, if you can put up with listening to and believe anything Mick Gledhill says, check out the Full 80 minutes “Assessing the Championship Club Season” from Feb 21st 2024.
Whilst not saying the exact amount the figure hinted at even had one of the other hosts saying “surely it can’t be as much as xxx k” with MG nodding oh yes it could.
My info has RD being particularly keen to get the Gaz deal over the line. When it first surfaced on a brief online chat interchange with RD I mentioned asked / suggested that having achieved so much in the game that to go out playing for your home town club could be another important milestone / achievement and if there was any chance / truth in it.
The reply was, “ If not it wouldn’t be for the lack of trying.”
Ive heard figures of between 35-45k banded about by pretty reliable folk and the same story that it was RD that was very keen to get the deal over the line more so than the coach. I also hear our wage bill went up this year by over 100k which if true is crazy and shows agents had his pants down. Back to Widdop though that sort of money would bring in 3/4 really good props or a couple of very good centres and that decision is clearly been made by someone who does not know rugby at this level.
"Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."― Albert Einstein "Everybody gets so much information all day long that they lose their common sense." ― Gertrude Stein "Don't believe everything you read on the internet" ― Abraham Lincoln
Greg Florimos Boots wrote:Ive heard figures of between 35-45k banded about by pretty reliable folk and the same story that it was RD that was very keen to get the deal over the line more so than the coach. I also hear our wage bill went up this year by over 100k which if true is crazy and shows agents had his pants down. Back to Widdop though that sort of money would bring in 3/4 really good props or a couple of very good centres and that decision is clearly been made by someone who does not know rugby at this level.
That's less than I thought it could have been and had heard. But also that half of his costs were being covered by a sponsor and not all out of the clubs finances. And that this money had been up up purely for getting GW in.
And I believe we have at least one player paid in that region, and if you were to believe all rumours, that's the sort of money Gwaze was demanding.
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Just watched the first half. Why did it take 5 tries and 40 minutes for the coach to decide his position selection was wrong? And what did Widdop keep kicking into the shade side of the field when clearly the only kick into sun caused problems.
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Greg Florimos Boots wrote:Ive heard figures of between 35-45k banded about by pretty reliable folk and the same story that it was RD that was very keen to get the deal over the line more so than the coach. I also hear our wage bill went up this year by over 100k which if true is crazy and shows agents had his pants down. Back to Widdop though that sort of money would bring in 3/4 really good props or a couple of very good centres and that decision is clearly been made by someone who does not know rugby at this level.
You called it right, greg, the Toulouse game in particular showed how inadequate our pack is, either too small or too old. The Toulouse pack murdered us in the first half, I thought it was going to be a 50 niller but spreading the ball in the 2nd half was the better option against their big tiring men.
Greg Florimos Boots wrote:Ive heard figures of between 35-45k banded about by pretty reliable folk and the same story that it was RD that was very keen to get the deal over the line more so than the coach. I also hear our wage bill went up this year by over 100k which if true is crazy and shows agents had his pants down. Back to Widdop though that sort of money would bring in 3/4 really good props or a couple of very good centres and that decision is clearly been made by someone who does not know rugby at this level.
That's the sort of figure put forward by Jimmy on TF80M and MG suggested it was even higher leaving J a bit speechless and us a bit cashless.
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