Post subject: Re: RD 13 | vs Castleford Tigers (H)
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 7:31 am
Backwoodsman
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Happy with the win, Cas weren’t very good ,nevertheless some good performances on view. Especially Martin, Croft and Miller, Cam Smith and Newman are going backwards. But that problem is fixable, the coaching staff can see what the issue is so they need to sort it out.
Post subject: Re: RD 13 | vs Castleford Tigers (H)
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:38 am
rugbyleague88
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Probably as good a result as you could have expected given where Leeds are currently at, albeit still nowhere near where they should be. Hopefully, it helps them build some confidence.
Post subject: Re: RD 13 | vs Castleford Tigers (H)
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 11:17 am
fanstanningley
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RonnieGinger wrote:The news of Rob makes things very insignificant tbh
But, it was nice to at least win last night. You can only beat what's in front of you A few lads stood around me were saying 'Yeh well it's Cas and we should be beating em' I sort of agree to some extent, plus it should have been a lot more comfortable. But in a way the lads cant win! You lose they get lambasted, you win, they get lambasted.
I thought the atmosphere was flat yesterday and not many chants about players. I dunno maybe I am looking into stuff too much.
Anyways we won, onwards.
The atmosphere was has flat as ive ever known it for a Cas game.
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Post subject: Re: RD 13 | vs Castleford Tigers (H)
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 11:51 am
Simmo71
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Exeter Rhino wrote:When is Lisone's deal up? We should get more for a quota player than 15-20 minutes of lottery every week. He's way behind the likes of Paasi for Saints, whereas players like Prior and Seumanufagai were much better value back in the Agar days.
Lisone is the only forward we have that is capable of putting the opposition on their backside. None of our other forwards, including Mik can do that. He needs to get fitter and cut out mistakes at times. But we need more of the type of impact he provides. IMO of course....
Post subject: Re: RD 13 | vs Castleford Tigers (H)
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 3:43 pm
Once were Loiners
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I was just thinking that our overseas quota is very imbalanced - five backs and two forwards seems wrong. In addition, too few of them are better than domestic options in their positions. Its generally agreed that you want quota spots to go to outstanding players. Currently only Croft and Martin definitely fit that description for me, Miller's a probable if he gets his brain explosions sorted, and Momirovski has potential as well. But Fusitu'a just doesn't play enough to be worth a spot, Frawley looks beyond ordinary, and Lisone is way down the list of most effective overseas props in SL.
The kids coming through will hopefully displace some of the backs, but we really need to improve our hit rate of quota players, and focus on getting the biggest bang for our buck.
Post subject: Re: RD 13 | vs Castleford Tigers (H)
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 7:31 pm
leeds owl
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Simmo71 wrote:Lisone is the only forward we have that is capable of putting the opposition on their backside. None of our other forwards, including Mik can do that. He needs to get fitter and cut out mistakes at times. But we need more of the type of impact he provides. IMO of course....
Lisone had the best game I’ve seen him play. The trouble with him is that he doesn’t seem to do it against the better teams. Ultimately the stronger teams have bigger and better forwards and Lisone appears to have little or no impact most times against them. Calling him a bully would be going too far, but he certainly doesn’t seem to to have the appetite for taking the ball in against the better teams either. IMO of course…. D
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Post subject: Re: RD 13 | vs Castleford Tigers (H)
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:26 pm
Once were Loiners
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Hard to tell if he's a flat track bully or if its because he's easy to target as he's the only forward we have who hits the line hard. That makes him pretty easy to defend against if you are organised and determined, and he's not a Walmsley who is big enough to flatten anybody regardless. If he was following up someone else who did the same the tackle before he'd be a lot more effective.
I ca't imagine any opposition pack being particularly worried about facing ours. We're the least physical outside the bottom three by some distance. That's why I think we need two power forwards to give us more of a chance. One isn't enough, you need a rotation that always has some bite on the field. Not to mention injuries.
Post subject: Re: RD 13 | vs Castleford Tigers (H)
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:43 am
leeds owl
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The more I see Sangare the more it highlights the recruitment and retention disasters made by the club in recent years. Not only do we sign the least effective pound for pound prop forward in the world, we then compound the mistake by offering him a contract extension based on an injury riddled season and toothless displays. If you want to find out where it’s been going wrong for the Rhinos over the last few years Sangare is the best example.
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Post subject: Re: RD 13 | vs Castleford Tigers (H)
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:40 am
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leeds owl wrote:The more I see Sangare the more it highlights the recruitment and retention disasters made by the club in recent years. Not only do we sign the least effective pound for pound prop forward in the world, we then compound the mistake by offering him a contract extension based on an injury riddled season and toothless displays. If you want to find out where it’s been going wrong for the Rhinos over the last few years Sangare is the best example.
I dont have an issue with Sangare in a rotation or "project" berth, but I do agree he isnt really pulling up any trees as stands or even stood. For a bloke that size it is a little disappointing that he isnt tearing through the line and continually makes daft offloads. Did we recruit the best we could? or the best we could afford?
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