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 Post subject: Re: London Away
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2024 7:09 pm 
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Hopefully once London are relegated they'll disappear into RL obscurity, I was all for them staying in SL but after this hopefully we won't see them for a while after this season.

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 Post subject: Re: London Away
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2024 7:14 pm 
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tommyfromhull wrote:Very rarely.

The player must truly believe he heard something is obviously mistaken. Doesn’t mean he made it up, just means he’s wrong.

Right decision to take it to a hearing, but now Herman deserves a full apology. Looks like it’s going to drag on a bit, though.

Another page in the calamity of a story this season already is.


Life would be better if the likes of would keep your big mouths shut. And I truly believe that. Doesn’t mean I’m mistaken or making that up.

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 Post subject: Re: London Away
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2024 7:22 pm 
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tommyfromhull wrote:Very rarely.

The player must truly believe he heard something is obviously mistaken. Doesn’t mean he made it up, just means he’s wrong.

Right decision to take it to a hearing, but now Herman deserves a full apology. Looks like it’s going to drag on a bit, though.

Another page in the calamity of a story this season already is.


All the more reason not to air the grievance until it has been investigated.

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 Post subject: Re: London Away
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2024 7:25 pm 
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:lol: They’ve now deleted their original tweet and statement and replaced it with a pretty much identical tweet and statement

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 Post subject: Re: London Away
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2024 7:34 pm 
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I understand naturally that a club would support their player but that statement by London in farcical. Any respect I had for them has gone throwing one of our own under the bus they way they have. Hope they rot in the championship for some time.

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 Post subject: Re: London Away
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2024 7:41 pm 
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Trying to save face.

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 Post subject: Re: London Away
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2024 7:51 pm 
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Large Paws wrote:All the more reason not to air the grievance until it has been investigated.

That’s, unfortunately, a problem with the charging system. Players get changed then a hearing takes place. It’s how it works, rightly or wrongly.

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 Post subject: Re: London Away
PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2024 8:46 am 
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Glad to see he has been cleared. I do believe that the right process was followed here as incidents of abuse do need to be taken seriously and investigated (see my previous post on this) in a fair way for both the accuser and the accused. I agree with others that this hasn't necessarily been malicious on the London players part and may have been a case of them mishearing something. However, I am very disappointed with London's reaction to this. I am also very disappointed that there is very little on social media saying the charges have been dropped. They were very quick to report on the allegation and would no doubt be having a field day right now if conclusive evidence had found Ese Ese guilty.

I think overall though, this incident highlights that the way these incidents are handled needs to be looked at as there is a duty of care needed towards the players. Sky should never have revealed on air what the incident was whilst the RFL and MRP need to keep a lid on such charges until after a full investigation has been held (including appeals). They have a responsibility to protect the players whether it's the accuser or the accused. Herman's name was tarnished over this last couple of weeks because of how that was handled and that wasn't right at all.

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 Post subject: Re: London Away
PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2024 9:24 am 
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If you think back to last season Josh Maguire (Warrington) got 8 games I think for calling an opponent a 'spaz' which is a childish offensive word, 8 games though?

The point I'm making is that maybe these NRL guys coming over have a different culture/mentality about what we perceive as acceptable or not.
Herman's obviously said something because Grix alludes to the fact that EseEse didn't think what he'd said was offensive,
Another thing aswell which you lot haven't mentioned, why would London submit evidence against a player that contradicts there original evidence. It doesn't make sense, but London obviously feel the RFL have acted wrongly

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 Post subject: Re: London Away
PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2024 10:31 am 
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badly managed from start to finish but this is the rfl what do you expect?






The poor man's bonaire

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