Dr Dreadnought wrote:Its important to remember that these are the stats for two games, there will be other games were a particular forward will have better looking stats than this. I don't think you can judge whether anyone is doing enough or not from such a small sample
Jamie's actually posted more stats on X, those two games are just the ones I linked to.
JamieRobinson1234 wrote:Thanks for posting this, I forgot to share the stats on this forum after Ste Mills gave us permission to share them! There are 1000000 more stats that we unfortunately aren't able to share, which also make for interesting reading but hopefully everyone is enjoying the basics of what we're able to put out
I may try and put together the minutes played too for each player, if possible - as these make an impact too.
Thanks for the work you and your dad do, love your podcast and hope that everybody on this forum listens to it, and follows your account on X.
Dr Dreadnought wrote:Its important to remember that these are the stats for two games, there will be other games were a particular forward will have better looking stats than this. I don't think you can judge whether anyone is doing enough or not from such a small sample
Every stat from every game in 2024 has been posted on our Twitter / X feed Just keep scrolling down to find them!
AgbriggAmbler wrote:
JamieRobinson1234 wrote:Thanks for posting this, I forgot to share the stats on this forum after Ste Mills gave us permission to share them! There are 1000000 more stats that we unfortunately aren't able to share, which also make for interesting reading but hopefully everyone is enjoying the basics of what we're able to put out
I may try and put together the minutes played too for each player, if possible - as these make an impact too.
Thanks for the work you and your dad do, love your podcast and hope that everybody on this forum listens to it, and follows your account on X.
Thank you for the kind feedback, we do it all for the enjoyment so it's great that others find it interesting / fun too
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Trojan Horse wrote:Bowden doesn’t take the drives before try’s on the next play. Quite the opposite in that it’s very regularly Uele and Rodwell who get to their front quick and get quick plays to set up the positions.
Bowden makes hardly any errors too and plays a very tidy game.
Well.....as I've seen him do it, I would say he does.
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PopTart wrote:Well.....as I've seen him do it, I would say he does.
I like Bowden and I really like what he brings to the team but your comment, and I will quote your words again, 'easily the highest' work rate is way off the mark, in terms of stats, which you use to back your argument, he is bottom of the pile when it comes to our front rowers. I'm not the one that started comparing players, I think they have all been brilliant of I'm honest, I just think it does the rest of the pack a disservice to start putting one player 'easily' above the rest, particularly when it's not true.
I see now though that you have made something else up about Bowden been the one that creates trys from his quick ptbs the tackle before a try. You are starting to sound like Vastman, you can never be wrong.
PopTart wrote:Well.....as I've seen him do it, I would say he does.
I’ve watched every game on YouTube and live and highlights. It’s not noticeable to me but I will check through a number of highlights and post again shortly.
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homme vaste wrote:I like Bowden and I really like what he brings to the team but your comment, and I will quote your words again, 'easily the highest' work rate is way off the mark, in terms of stats, which you use to back your argument, he is bottom of the pile when it comes to our front rowers. I'm not the one that started comparing players, I think they have all been brilliant of I'm honest, I just think it does the rest of the pack a disservice to start putting one player 'easily' above the rest, particularly when it's not true.
I see now though that you have made something else up about Bowden been the one that creates trys from his quick ptbs the tackle before a try. You are starting to sound like Vastman, you can never be wrong.
As I said, I was referring to the page posted, where his carries and tackles were higher. If the overall stats that I haven't seen say otherwise then so be it. I like him and I like the others. Can't see why you have a problem with that.
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha
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PopTart wrote:As I said, I was referring to the page posted, where his carries and tackles were higher. If the overall stats that I haven't seen say otherwise then so be it. I like him and I like the others. Can't see why you have a problem with that.
Okay then, let's all just agree Bowden is 'easily' the hardest worker in the pack because in 1 game out of 13, his stats are up there with the others.
My problem isn't that you like Bowden, it's that you've put him head and shoulders above all of the others... In no way shape or form is he easily better than the others in the team.
Bowden is having a belting season, as are most of the forwards, but we need to remember the quality of the opposition they're playing against and not forget how poor some of these players were last year against SL clubs.
PopTart wrote:Well.....as I've seen him do it, I would say he does.
Watching the last 5 games back and Bowden takes the drive before once I think, possibly twice but think that was Cozza vs Doncaster as hard to tell.
Uele and Rodwell are common pre try runners with recent games some excellent charges and quick plays.
Surprisingly Hood has featured in a few too and it’s quite random and shared across the park. Good signs I suppose.
I can’t be bothered checking earlier games. That said I am happy with Bowden and think he is a good contributor to our pack as a starting forward. I just don’t see him as the one making quick plays and putting teams on the back foot with quick plays leading to try’s. That said I don’t think it’s his job.
I see him as a player who never makes an error, is experienced and strong in defence to soak up the opposition starting forwards somewhat whilst providing solid in unspectacular carries. There is a lot of value in that and he does a professional job.
I agree with you that Bowden is playing well despite having a difference in opinion on what he offers but we don’t have to agree and ultimately we are both happy fans.
Our pack luckily don’t need to compete with each other and appear to be working together and thriving off each other and their respective styles.
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