And nearly got cas relegated. One of the best coaches in the business? That's the funniest thing I've seen in a long time

What a stupid post. Okunbor needed dropping, and Balmforth was one of the positives from the other night. Not a single person suggested that making those changes would bring us a result, just that we might look better for it.

Balmforth 16 tackles 1 miss
Houghton 36 tackles 5 misses
So pretty comparable

On another point
Sutcliffe 8 tackles 6 misses
Litten 16 tackles 7 misses

Easy to see where saints got some success. The 2nd row/centre partneship and the half defending out there is so important. Poor structure, fatigue and lack of familiarity with each other all contributing factors but we definitely need better 2nd rowers

Must admit I was getting very frustrated at the amount of times Sutcliffe rushed in to tackle the 2nd rower leaving Martin to tackle Hurrell and Makinson

and centres
Always said Sutcliffe was a poor signing and you can now see it

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Agree we do like to blame individuals- it’s been confirmed he lacks confidence. You would be reticent to have a hit up if you are low on it. Some dubious man managers on here stating he’s lazy he’s stealing a wage etc etc without knowing the ins and outs. We all know he’s playing crap but telling him isn’t the solution. But this is a forum so heyho. We can only get better but how quick?

So do we keep playing okunbor until he gets some confidence or do we pay him to sit around or play in the reserves? The guy isn't even a proper 2nd rower

Will probably end up in France, either at Toulouse or playing RU.

id stick to basketball

hes been crap full stop. But new broom so lets give him another go. As long as Grix thinks hes ready who knows he might get better.