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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:16 pm 
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TnT wrote:Good that you’re going to give Myler a chance . We have no choice. remember Pearson has put loads of money into the club. As regards ambition well that’s dictated a lot by money. Pearson has s sought investment and he has incentive to be ambitious so I would disagree with you there. There has been a lot wrong with the club and I think sacking TS was not sourcing the problem but possibly axing the solver. It will take a long time and we have to be better fans though our negativity has been justified. We won’t beat Saints but having a dig would satisfy me


Roughly how much money has Pearson put INTO the club?
Just out of interest.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:49 pm 
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The games afoot wrote:Saw some earlier posts about assistants being offered the coaching job….Richard Marshall at Warrington….ex head coach of Halifax…assistant at Sts for a while….not my choice at all but just thought I’d sling his name in


why?
he is at a top club who are really looking good this year

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:08 pm 
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bonaire wrote:why?
he is at a top club who are really looking good this year


He was “at a top club” last season they was looking even better than this stage last season and look what happened.He may fancy a crack at head coach again but he got found out bit at Salford….like I said,not my choice personally.

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bonaire wrote:why?
he is at a top club who are really looking good this year


Career aspirations?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:58 pm 
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I think what we have seen recently with Tony Smith proves that it's not necessarily about who is in charge but the resources at their disposal. For years a lot of FC fans were crying out for an experienced coach to come in instead of assistants. We got that in Smith and it hasn't worked. But can we honestly say that Smith has had full resources? Cap spend has been questionable because whether we are spending full cap or not, it certainly hasn't been value for money. Meanwhile our backroom staff has been depleted and we're waiting on these new training facilities to be completed.

So I don't think it matters about someone's track record as such. What is important is that whoever they identify to take us forward gets everything they need from the club put at their disposal to achieve their goals. I'm liking what has been said since last week by both Pearson and now Myler suggesting that will be the case.

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mwindass wrote:Career aspirations?


thats why Warrington is a much better option than we are

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Roam Ranger wrote:I think what we have seen recently with Tony Smith proves that it's not necessarily about who is in charge but the resources at their disposal. For years a lot of FC fans were crying out for an experienced coach to come in instead of assistants. We got that in Smith and it hasn't worked. But can we honestly say that Smith has had full resources? Cap spend has been questionable because whether we are spending full cap or not, it certainly hasn't been value for money. Meanwhile our backroom staff has been depleted and we're waiting on these new training facilities to be completed.

So I don't think it matters about someone's track record as such. What is important is that whoever they identify to take us forward gets everything they need from the club put at their disposal to achieve their goals. I'm liking what has been said since last week by both Pearson and now Myler suggesting that will be the case.


I dont think it was all about resources.
Smith failed miserably as a coach
Failed to get the squad supremely fit to help make up for the lack of quality on the field
Failed to implement a defensive strategy to make us difficult to beat knowing we dont have the strike to score many tries
Failed to clamp down on the on field indicipline which was bad in his first season but even worse this season.
I agree we didnt have enough quality players in the squad but he was the one who continued to play two nines in the halfs when we all could see it wasnt working,and continually flogging Houghton for near 80 minutues knowing he had a hamstring problem as though Houghton was the answer to our prayers and would turn our season around.
I cant see Grix been our future coach but even he cannot do any worse than Smith

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Dave K. wrote:Can you listen to it first mate, started the last one and couldn't cope with Shaw and the amount of things he got wrong.


They only cover us for the 1st 15 minutes or so. Shaw was much better and more balanced. Must've had an off day on the other podcast they ran when Smith got the boot

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supersuperfc wrote:Roughly how much money has Pearson put INTO the club?
Just out of interest.

It's impossible to say from abbreviated accounts but there is £2.8m of other borrowings in the accounts from 2022, a big chunk of which will likely be loans from pearson.

As an aside, I see lots of comments about pearson taking a salary from the club but seems unlikely to me if he has loans in there. Far more likely he gets payments on these loans or he'd be paying a huge amount of tax on a salary






The poor man's bonaire

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supersuperfc wrote:Roughly how much money has Pearson put INTO the club?
Just out of interest.

I obviously can’t answer that. My post was to counter criticism of Pearson who clearly loves the club but like everyone makes mistakes. He is entitled to make decisions that save money whilst balancing that with improving all aspects of the club. It’s not easy. Don’t get criticism of TS & AP - almost disrespect in some posts. I suspect without AP we may have gone under .

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