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The next 6 games are vital to our season. We have Huddersfield who just walloped Catalans away in the cup. Hull FC who are in complete disarray, London at home, Catalans away, St Helens away and Cas at home. I expect us to win 3 (Hull FC, London and Cas) and lose 3 (Hudds, Catalans and Saints) leaving us with a P13, W7, L6 record and probably just hanging onto the pack chasing 5/6th place. Anything worse than this as Smith should be removed, same if we don’t achieve 4th or better by the end of the season. We have a squad that should be no worse than 4th, and were currently sat 8th, with no sensible or recognisable way of defending or attacking.
It's not how much talent you've got, it's what you do with it that counts.
batleyrhino wrote:The next 6 games are vital to our season. We have Huddersfield who just walloped Catalans away in the cup. Hull FC who are in complete disarray, London at home, Catalans away, St Helens away and Cas at home. I expect us to win 3 (Hull FC, London and Cas) and lose 3 (Hudds, Catalans and Saints) leaving us with a P13, W7, L6 record and probably just hanging onto the pack chasing 5/6th place. Anything worse than this as Smith should be removed, same if we don’t achieve 4th or better by the end of the season. We have a squad that should be no worse than 4th, and were currently sat 8th, with no sensible or recognisable way of defending or attacking.
Pretty much agree Bats. Although I really don't think Smith will be sacked mid-season, regardless of where we are. The club may be planning for a change at the end of the season, but not a lot of point removing him halfway through as we won't be relegated. Pretty depressing that we fully expect to get beaten at home by Hudds. Hope we're wrong of course! And there's something very wrong if we don't win all 3 of the games you highlighted.
Assuming they had a tough game physically against Catalans and a few battered bodies and we will have had 2 weeks to recover from niggles no excuse this time for anything other than a win at home
Tactics or whatever, we need to have spent this time off genuinely trying to fix up what's going wrong. If we don't change the way we play we'll keep getting the same sort of results. I would have more faith that Rohan knows what he's doing even if we lose against Hudds if it looks like some of the issues we keep seeing seem to have been addressed, or at least improved.
Jack Burton wrote:So you make excuses for when we win, but don't accept them when we lose? That doesn't seem logically consistent.
The point was that the timing of when a coach is hired, is just as important as who the coach is.
Powell was the right coach in 2002, but he wasn't in 2004. McClennen was the right man in 2008 to take over fromTS, but it was time for a change when McDermott came in.
Millward was great at Saints, but terrible at Wigan. Tim Sheens is one of the greatest coaches of all time at Canberra and initially at Wests, but was poor at KR. Tony Smith was superb at Leeds and Warrington, and good at KR, but Hull have been dreadful with him in charge. Does that make them bad coaches, or are they the wrong coach at the wrong time?
Tony Smith had all the tools in the bag at Wire but still could not get a Grand Final victory .
At the moment I would say his Nephew is a poor coach because our tactics are dreadful and i see no improvement in any individuals
I'm very sceptical about RS, and I highly doubt he's the right coach for where we are now, as a club, but I definitely don't think he's a bad coach.
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