I think 2 years is what it takes to get back on the horse after an acl.

A year to fix the injury, the following pre season would be written off and the season of games will be mostly conditioning back to form.

Throughout that return, and player is never going to be peaking and will come in for a barrage of criticism.

I thought it was more questioning his place in the side on current form rather than a "barrage of criticism".

Seems to me some players get a pass, and others get crucified.

Philbin works really hard, has a great engine and can make the occasional tackle bust. However I don't think he's ever been at the level we need to compete with the best, possibly mainly due to his stature. If you want an 'awesome foursome' (in the rugby sense of course) then Vaughan & Harrison and probably Musgove and possibly even Bullock (who has just been given a new 2 year deal) get in there as they're genuinely big men. Philbin isn't. No criticism, it's just the way it is.

That's a bit daft. No problem with questioning his form currently, but Philbin was one of the best around in that 2019 season: instrumental in our cup win and a GB tourist at the end of the season.

I think Philbin is a good hard working Wire. One or two (without mentioning name of course) love throwing a bit for some reason but that's how they are. Happy to see Bullock get a deal & hope he stays fit. Wire going well.

He was very good in 2019 and that's 5 years ago now.