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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:22 am 
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Tarquin Fuego wrote:So what I’m now hearing -
AP defo not leaving
I heard he said things had gone too
far under Uncle Tony

I’m just happy I was able to bring a scoop to the forum and I certainly slept better when I heard the news re a new
Investor

Is there a an assistant Coach at Melbourne, who could be the next Maguire??
We need that type of coach...

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 Post subject: Re: Who can take us forward?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:42 am 
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https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... re-9220053

The announcement that we are to appoint a Director of Rugby is an interesting development and something that many have questioned since the departure of Motu as selection and quality of recruits has certainly depreciated (perhaps in some part as well to the money available to recruit being reduced year on year by stealth) Why I say its interesting is that when Smith left Rovers he publicly stated that he wanted control of all recruitment and retention and obviously with time it wasn't working for the club as a whole. The same lesson seems to have been learned here too. I heard last night that the parting was an amicable one on both sides and although its reported training etc was a bit of a shambles it was also probably based on the fact that a lot of that responsibility was to be taken from the Coach and placed on the shoulders of a football manager.

The irony of an owner who obviously likes sole control on the ownership side without interference and a coach who demands complete autonomy on the recruitment and retention side of things should certainly not be lost of any of us. Interesting times and still the question persists will Adam give the club up to new investors or just take some investment on board to strengthen the team. Plus I think that the appointment of a Rugby manager probably means we will go forward with Grix, but I hope I'm wrong there. The new Director of rugby's first job should be to appoint a new coach altogether. For me personally We need a new broom.
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... re-9220053

The announcement that we are to appoint a Director of Rugby is an interesting development and something that many have questioned since the departure of Motu as selection and quality of recruits has certainly depreciated (perhaps in some part as well to the money available to recruit being reduced year on year by stealth) Why I say its interesting is that when Smith left Rovers he publicly stated that he wanted control of all recruitment and retention and obviously with time it wasn't working for the club as a whole. The same lesson seems to have been learned here too. I heard last night that the parting was an amicable one on both sides and although its reported training etc was a bit of a shambles it was also probably based on the fact that a lot of that responsibility was to be taken from the Coach and placed on the shoulders of a football manager.

The irony of an owner who obviously likes sole control on the ownership side without interference and a coach who demands complete autonomy on the recruitment and retention side of things should certainly not be lost of any of us. Interesting times and still the question persists will Adam give the club up to new investors or just take some investment on board to strengthen the team. Plus I think that the appointment of a Rugby manager probably means we will go forward with Grix, but I hope I'm wrong there. The new Director of rugby's first job should be to appoint a new coach altogether. For me personally We need a new broom.






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 Post subject: Re: Who can take us forward?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:59 am 
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WIZEB wrote:Is that all the same ones who said Tony Smith was the missing part of the jigsaw and as an experiened head coach would take us to the Golden Fleece.
Oh ye, all them ones who got it wrong yet again. :lol:

Who says they were wrong? Perhaps Smith would have been successful. Nowadays there is no patience. I feel a new coach now has to start again. And he may benefit from investment that TS never had. So everyone who has the black and white answers if you’ll pardon the pun, without knowing all the facts should e a little considered in their judgement imo. I’m sure FC will rise again but not necessarily from the departure of Tony Smith. As an experienced international coach he will have made a positive contribution to a sinking ship. These forums appear to be vehicle for many to cathartically vent their spleens. Hoy and Smith have been harshly spoken off imo. Heyho

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 Post subject: Re: Who can take us forward?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:17 am 
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Struggling to think of names for the DOR role?

Iam Blease would be great, not sure he would leave Salford though.

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 Post subject: Re: Who can take us forward?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:37 am 
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Didn't someone mention james Webster was sat next to Pearson at the Hudds game and was rumoured to be helping us with recruitment?

He still lives in the city and is available

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 Post subject: Re: Who can take us forward?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:39 am 
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TnT wrote:Who says they were wrong? Perhaps Smith would have been successful. Nowadays there is no patience. I feel a new coach now has to start again. And he may benefit from investment that TS never had. So everyone who has the black and white answers if you’ll pardon the pun, without knowing all the facts should e a little considered in their judgement imo. I’m sure FC will rise again but not necessarily from the departure of Tony Smith. As an experienced international coach he will have made a positive contribution to a sinking ship. These forums appear to be vehicle for many to cathartically vent their spleens. Hoy and Smith have been harshly spoken off imo. Heyho


Well, we'll never know about Smith now, will we?
I do find it amusing that several who welcomed Smith as our new saviour were the first ones calling for his head, and are now telling us who and what is needed.
I never really fancied Smith and especially when he brought Gene in.
I agree about your Hoy & Smith comment.

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 Post subject: Re: Who can take us forward?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:58 am 
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We do desperately need a DOR - I think Adam isn’t the man to manage the Head Coach.
Adam’s admitted he’s not always been front of house.
The DOR should manage the new Head Coach as Adam can’t manage one strong person never mind 2.

Craig Bellamy is the greatest coach ever, behind Bunting.
If anyone has worked with Bellamy then they certainly get to see how a genius works.
Guess what ? Bellamy is described as Firm but Fair !!! That’s it for a genius !
But he is obsessed with WINNING.

Therefore he is all over the small stuff , the 1%s.

Justin Morgan anyone ? Or a very ambitious NFL coach who is very good with players but demands total dedication to Winning and all that is required to achieve that.






I have lost interest

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 Post subject: Re: Who can take us forward?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:03 am 
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NFL coach, might as well bring in Ted Lasso?

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 Post subject: Re: Who can take us forward?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:06 am 
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Rumour mill is still in over drive this morning.Mystery benefactor has set his sights on Rowley apparently.

that interview with pearson cant come soon enough, put us all out of our misery

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 Post subject: Re: Who can take us forward?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:32 am 
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James Webster as DoR really wouldnt't filll me with any confidence

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