The Reaper wrote:Am I missing something? I said I can see plenty of improvement in both sides did I not?

sergeant pepper wrote:More like ref is a coward.

It will upset the sensitive souls on here if I could tell you what I hope happens to Kuntdall.

JonB95 wrote:Is this forum completely unmoderated these days? How is this post still here?

JonB95 wrote:Is this forum completely unmoderated these days? How is this post still here?

BoredWiganer wrote:I was thinking this myself, i normally agree and like a lot of SP's posts but they have been pushing the line with regards to referee's recently and went completely off the rails last night in a few posts that should be removed imo.

Maybe a good suggestion to SP would be to take a few dayd break from the forum and come back with a more level head?

MadDogg wrote:The interchange bench in general turned out to be a bit of a disaster for Wigan. Dupree comes on and gets sinbinned, Leeming makes two errors and is subbed again after 15 minutes, Mago again with limited minutes and looked to struggle with the pace and Nsemba wasn't used. I'd have to look at the stats but I'd be surprised if we even used all of the 8 interchanges as well. Fix that and take out the cards and we're in a better position straight away.

Ultimately there looks very little between the sides atm. Saints with Paasi to come back look like they may still have the edge in the forwards but Wigan's pace will surely come into play more as the season goes on.

Phuzzy wrote:You said you thought there was similar room for improvement in both teams. I didn't see you playing with 12 men unless I missed it. By that reasoning Salford can improve as much as you the next time you meet. Do you think that's the case?

apollosghost wrote:With all due respect to Farrell and Isa who've been tremendous servants to the club I'll be bitterly disappointed if Walters and Nsemba aren't our first choice 2nd row come the back end of the season

The Reaper wrote:Well no it seems like you didn’t really follow the conversation. We were talking about scope for improvement for the teams at large, to do that you’d be talking about how the game was going at 13 v 13 which is what I was doing and I assume Nicky was as well. If you want to talk about room for improvement as the game was at 13 v 12 then yeah… of course there’s more room for improvement from you. You were also much further behind us when you were down to 12 lol. It doesn’t make sense to approach it from that perspective

BoredWiganer wrote:As i am a boring barsteward i thought i would record our errors & discipline issues as i watched the game on the tele this morning. I felt it was yet again at an unacceptable level when at the game yesterday as it has been all season.

It is something we really need to be working on, as the periods when we behave and control the ball we where very competitive.

2 min - Byrne clear offside on kick
5 min - Field tackle in air
7 min - Wardle knock on (more forward pass imo)
10 min - French forward pass - terrible pass in general
11 min - 6 again Farrell holding down
11 min - 6 again Thompson second attempt, O'Neill prob should have given another one for holding down a couple of tackles later aswell.
14 min - O'Neill high tackle off the kick
16 min - Ellis high tackle
18 min - Field knock on
24 - penalty for offside Ellis - would have been a Field knock on otherwise
28 - Dupree leading with elbow - fair yellow imo
35 - Farrell knock on
45 - Leeming knock on
49 - Leeming knock on (rip by Clarke to be fair)

Notice how we have a 13 min spell without any errors or discipline issues - this is about the only time during the game i feel we are on top and coincidentally when we score our only points. Just thought that was worth pointing out.

62 - High tackle with shoulder Byrne - fair red card imo.
63 - Smith holding down 6 again
77 - Smith high tackle

To be fair we cleaned up a lot in our second half and was much more competitive generally for it, we just ran out of gas near the end, we gave ourselves a lot of extra work in that first half + the cards and it took its toll in the end.

I am also going to throw an error in for Peet, not playing Nsemba, even when we went down to 12 men for the last 18 mins was criminal in my eyes. That big body and fresh legs would have been invaluable at that moment, not to mention the different dimension he brings to the game that we needed.

If Peet can't trust a player's involvment in a high stakes period of the game when our backs are against the wall, then that player shouldn't be in the 17 man squad at all. Would he have trusted Hill more? If so he should have played him instead, even if i feel Nsemba earned his chance vs. Sheffield.