Post subject: Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go?
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:32 pm
CarlB
Academy Player
Joined: May 21 2022 Posts: 120
I don't buy too much into player power.
Professional rugby is a short career and typically 2 or 3 year contracts (I know we like to buck that trend).
They are always in the shop window and playing for the next contract. They wouldn't jeopardise their livelihoods.
By contrast to other Super League teams we are slow, tactically inept, unmotivated, uncoordinated, rudderless, lethargic, passionless and confused.
Those are all Managerial/coaching remits.
I don't believe this is a team that can do much at its best because it's poorly put together (another managerial failing) but it is certainly more able then we are seeing.
Post subject: Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go?
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:38 pm
Mild Rover
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Somebody who now looks very wise (wize?), with his house of cards metaphor.
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The fans are fed up and vexed off and he consistently comes out with this uninspiring "stick with us", "it takes time", "results like this happen" bullshit. If we were seeing signs of improvement you could believe what he says and that we're working towards something, but we're worse now than what he joined the club.
Post subject: Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go?
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:12 pm
mwindass
Player Coach
Joined: Nov 19 2008 Posts: 5361
Hasbag wrote:The fans are fed up and vexed off and he consistently comes out with this uninspiring "stick with us", "it takes time", "results like this happen" bullshit. If we were seeing signs of improvement you could believe what he says and that we're working towards something, but we're worse now than what he joined the club.
We look the worst coached team by a country mile. We've got nothing either side of the ball. With it we just plod around aimlessly, then put in a terrible kick or forget its the last tackle and pass it to a prop. Without it our contact in defence is pish poor, teams get god know how many after contact metres. We're all at sea when teams get in our 20 and just feels inevitable they will score.
We've had one win against an under equipped London team that we had to snatch in the last minute, other than that every other game has seen us comfortably the second best team.
Id love the club to host an open training session to see what they all get up to.
How he thinks his job is safe is beyond me. We should be interviewing potential head coaches now, I doubt our owner and CEO are that on the ball though.
Post subject: Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go?
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:12 pm
bonaire
International Star
Joined: Apr 04 2014 Posts: 7783
BP1 wrote:I'm not sure if sacking Smith would solve anything (I get the feeling that some issues are so deep-set they have become virtually immoveable) but it's certain that sticking with him will almost certainly see these horror shows being repeated week after week after week until our games are being watched by around 200 people!!
Whether it's Smith, his methods, Gene, the players trying to get him sacked, I don't know, but we have now gone beyond the point of no return. Something, somewhere has to change, we can't simply roll along like this any longer, every week that passes is doing irreparable harm to this once great club, soon there will be nothing left to build back on.
If this is another case of player-power attempting to get rid of yet another coach they don't like, well tell the players they can coach and pick a team themselves and see how far they get. At least they, and they alone, would then be accountable for their own actions.
I dont think there are many coaches that could have done a worse job than Smith Keep saying this but tell me one thing Smith has done that has enhanced us on the field?
Post subject: Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go?
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:16 pm
ComeOnYouUll
Club Owner
Joined: Sep 25 2003 Posts: 22183
mwindass wrote:We look the worst coached team by a country mile. We've got nothing either side of the ball. With it we just plod around aimlessly, then put in a terrible kick or forget its the last tackle and pass it to a prop. Without it our contact in defence is pish poor, teams get god know how many after contact metres. We're all at sea when teams get in our 20 and just feels inevitable they will score.
We've had one win against an under equipped London team that we had to snatch in the last minute, other than that every other game has seen us comfortably the second best team.
Id love the club to host an open training session to see what they all get up to.
How he thinks his job is safe is beyond me. We should be interviewing potential head coaches now, I doubt our owner and CEO are that on the ball though.
I thought you could go to the Uni and watch them train whenever you like?
Post subject: Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go?
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:18 pm
The Dentist Wilf
Player Coach
Joined: Dec 07 2005 Posts: 7389
Man that was horrendous again it's not losing it's just so many points against that smacks of players that don't give a toss and have no pride. Pride in the shirts and respect for the fans is all we really ask isn't its? It's really getting to me now with no hope on the horizon at all. AND there's the away game from hell looming. That total inertia and lack of wanting in defence is certainly not the hallmarks of my beloved team at all. It's getting like that second season in Super League under Lloyd. I hope Tony is getting an additional fee because he appears to be the clubs sole spokesman no one else says anything or gives us any reasons to have some hope. When he says his job is safe because Adam gets it I think it means that Adam gets that it's going to cost a fortune to get rid of him!
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Post subject: Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go?
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:19 pm
Bombed Out
International Star
Joined: Feb 21 2012 Posts: 1420
bonaire wrote:I dont think there are many coaches that could have done a worse job than Smith Keep saying this but tell me one thing Smith has done that has enhanced us on the field?
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