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 Post subject: Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:10 pm 
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Steve0 wrote:https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/tony-smith-refers-shaun-kenny-9180054?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Is smith losing it? Can you actually compare an international/NRL legend in SKD and Okunbor?


He has lost it.
trying to make a case how good he was at his previous clubs despite the obvious failings all last season and even worse this season is a bit pathetic.
This changing the clubs culture is just an excuse for his abject failure and poor selection decisions at times.
I cant see one improvement in anything related to the club since Smith has been here.
As fans we are focussed on what we see on the pitch.Even the most ardent and passionate fans on here who hate criticising anything about the club have to admit the club is going backwards on the pitch under Smith.
Pearson has to get his head together and stop wasting time getting rid because miracles wont happen.
A defeat on Saturday and another pasting at HKR means he will have to sack him so why leave it another two weeks.

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 Post subject: Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:12 pm 
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Steve0 wrote:https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/tony-smith-refers-shaun-kenny-9180054?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Is smith losing it? Can you actually compare an international/NRL legend in SKD and Okunbor?


I get the point he's trying to make. Remember plenty of Rovers fans writing SKD off after that 2020 season. Difference is SKD had a proven NRL track record

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 Post subject: Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:23 pm 
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CarlB wrote:I've no more mental tolerance for Smith and his diatribes and utterances about culture.

Culture is an attitude and ours is poor.

If we were 0 from 8 but showed up with a good attitude i'd be happier than I am now.

In fact the only time I've held optimism this year was when we lost to Catalans. I think, for me, it's not losing I struggle with, it's the way in which we lose.

If he states he is here to shift a culture then he is admitting failure.


I remember that quote from Tim Sheens years ago: We lost but we didn't get beat.

You can hold you head up high in defeat when you know you gave it your all but the other team were better on the day. It's something the coaches, the players, and the fans can all accept.

Right now though we don't just lose, we get truly beat most weeks.

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 Post subject: Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:25 pm 
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Steve0 wrote:https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/tony-smith-refers-shaun-kenny-9180054?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Is smith losing it? Can you actually compare an international/NRL legend in SKD and Okunbor?


A better comparison would be with Sims, Takairangi and Vete. It's frightening to think he signed all three.

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Steve0 wrote:https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/tony-smith-refers-shaun-kenny-9180054?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Is smith losing it? Can you actually compare an international/NRL legend in SKD and Okunbor?


He clearly doesn't compare them as players. His point is that some players struggle to adapt to a new country, a new culture. Not really relevant if they are internationals or have minimal NRL experience.

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ComeOnYouUll wrote:He clearly doesn't compare them as players. His point is that some players struggle to adapt to a new country, a new culture. Not really relevant if they are internationals or have minimal NRL experience.


Of course it's relevant, if it a quality player comes over and under performs it's a worry and settling in might be a reason.
If a rubbish player comes over and is rubbish it's surely just confirmation that he's rubbish.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:00 am 
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I see Balmforth is playing for the reserves team this week, I get the feeling Smith doesn’t really rate but I think he is exactly what is needed in the first team. Someone who can create and has a strong running game.






You know I've always been a dreamer

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 Post subject: Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 3:21 pm 
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Smiffy27 wrote:As an admirer of Hull FC & Tony Smith for years I have watched the nightmare start to the season.
I reckon any coach in the world would have struggled with what's been thrown at you. It will get better. Good luck.
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I think that speaks volumes from a neutral. I think it will get better just not soon enough. Lucky there’s no relegation this year which is why culture not results is the focus

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TnT wrote:I think that speaks volumes from a neutral. I think it will get better just not soon enough. Lucky there’s no relegation this year which is why culture not results is the focus


People going on about culture.Its just an excuse for a team that has too many average players
What is culture in your opinion?

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 Post subject: Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 3:30 pm 
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barham red wrote:Of course it's relevant, if it a quality player comes over and under performs it's a worry and settling in might be a reason.
If a rubbish player comes over and is rubbish it's surely just confirmation that he's rubbish.


Not many players make the number of NRL appearances Okunbor has and most SL players wouldn’t make a single appearance. why was he picked for so long, it Not like his dad was coaching the side.

Probably because he’s not as bad as people are making out. It’s a very valid comparison.

Neither player hit their relative peaks immediately but TS has faith that we’ll see more from Okunbor like he did from SKD and we did from satae/Carlos. Like Wigan did from field & Mago.

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