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 Post subject: Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:38 pm 
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Hard to believe it was only a few months ago AP was telling us that brighter and prosperous days were ahead once the Covid Loan was paid. Any news on that by the way? Quite a substantial matter for the club and yet complete silence, should it not be paid by now? Early 2024 was his words, we are now nearing April. Its almost feels as if he's lied to us...again.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:46 pm 
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HU8HFC wrote:Hard to believe it was only a few months ago AP was telling us that brighter and prosperous days were ahead once the Covid Loan was paid. Any news on that by the way? Quite a substantial matter for the club and yet complete silence, should it not be paid by now? Early 2024 was his words, we are now nearing April. Its almost feels as if he's lied to us...again.


Pearson Lie to us?
still waiting for my jar of jam

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:54 pm 
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bonaire wrote:Pearson Lie to us?
still waiting for my jar of jam


It's always due tomorrow.

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 Post subject: Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:49 pm 
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Seems to me his financial restrictions will steer him to make the wrong choice again[/quote]

Not sure AP has much of a choice to make, he cant spend what he doesn't have.

Oh for that wealthy benefactor to ride up on a white charger....................

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:50 pm 
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HU8HFC wrote:Hard to believe it was only a few months ago AP was telling us that brighter and prosperous days were ahead once the Covid Loan was paid. Any news on that by the way? Quite a substantial matter for the club and yet complete silence, should it not be paid by now? Early 2024 was his words, we are now nearing April. Its almost feels as if he's lied to us...again.

I was under the impression it’s getting sorted October time?

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 Post subject: Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:25 pm 
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With no chance of us been relegated this season Its probably why we have skimped on spending any real cash on players .
AP has seen it as an opportunity to recoup some cash from the previous seasons losses .

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:29 pm 
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B0NES wrote:With no chance of us been relegated this season Its probably why we have skimped on spending any real cash on players .
AP has seen it as an opportunity to recoup some cash from the previous seasons losses .


Feels like ourselves, Cas (focusing on off field matters like getting LED boards) and London (guaranteed relegation) have all taken this approach and there's only really 9 competitive teams in SL this year

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:08 pm 
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There's 2 things that would help solve our current issues: money and/or brains and we seem to have neither. Salford have shown time and again that if you're smart you can be competitive without spending loads of money.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:43 pm 
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Marcus's Bicycle wrote:We've had 9 permanent coaches in SL. This is taken from the HDM and RL Project and I haven't checked the veracity of the stats so they may not be accurate but here we go;

1st, Shaun McRae: 2000-04, 56%Played 158 - Won 89 - Drew 8 - Lost 61
2nd, John Kear: 2005-06, 55%Played 43 - Won 24 - Drew 2 - Lost 17
3rd, Peter Sharp: 2006-08, 55%Played 68 - Won 38 - Drew 3 - Lost 27
4th, Peter Gentle: 2012-13, 53%Played 64 - Won 34 - Drew 4 - Lost 26
5th, Lee Radford: 2014-2020, 50%Played 202 - Won 101 - Drew 3 - Lost 98
6th, Richard Agar: 2006 & 2008-11, 46%Played 108 - Won 50 - Drew 1 - Lost 57
7th, Brett Hodgson: 2021-22, 41%Played 53 - Won 22 - Drew 1 - Lost 30
8th, Tony Smith: 2023 - to date 35% Played 34 - Won 12 - Lost 22
9th, Peter Walsh: 1998-99, 28%Played 39 - Won 11 - Drew 0 - Lost 28

*Andy Last: 2020, 57%Played 14 - Won 8 - Lost 6

Lies, damn lies and statistics?



Interesting post !
How many have gone on to have successful
Careers after Hull FC ?
Brian Smith did !!

Seems we have only ever appointed lemons
Since 1991

That’s 33 years of mediocrity

I like Justin Morgan but feel he will be past it
Now wherever he is

Tony is a ‘ dead man walking’ - he’s utterly finished
This will only get worse before he leaves
How will he leave ???

Surely Stan goes with him and Grix gets a chance

It simply can’t get any worse and this time
That’s a truism

Until London I don’t know where the next chance
Of a win is as the team look finished mentally






I have lost interest

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 Post subject: Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:44 pm 
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Forget Rowley or any other new coach coming in,we are stuck with Tony,Stan and Grix for the foreseeable future as AP hasn’t the finances to move them out.AP relies on this club for his own salary,so not a chance of any change.Even if Tony walked,we would still only go with Grix or Cummins.This club is at its lowest ebb since pre Super League days and things aren’t changing anytime soon.In James Clark we have a fool when it comes to knowing which players to target,yet he looks to do well with commercial deals.Whether fans like it or not our homegrown players simply aren’t SL standard as in they wouldn’t get in any squad within the top 8,fact.There are a couple of bright sparks on the horizon but they aren’t really ready yet to be in the 17 every week






Never mind the bollox,bring on the rugby:

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