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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 1:19 am 
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Marcus's Bicycle wrote:With all this doom and gloom we need the distraction of something positive. How about a new range of overpriced low quality merchandise. Another super hero magic shirt should do it.


Thinking about it merchandise is probably the source of Pearsons income from the club

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:55 am 
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mwindass wrote:His arms are too short. He'll drop too much ball

He'll fit right in....

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:59 am 
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The Cooke Report wrote:Is it chess or rugby?

That was the only available option, as Tuimavave had already gone off injured ..
Or do you have an alternative answer??

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 Post subject: Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:57 am 
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Think Smith has the next two games and has to win one of them, but I don't think we will, I think we will have a battling defeat next week, fans happy with the effort etc (which is getting really boring), then battered in the derby the week after.

Think Pearson has 3 choices,

Backs Smith, gives him some money to bring players in (pay off Carlos, brings in a 7) and tries to sign a domestic centre.
Sacks Smith and brings in someone like Wane, give him 2 years to sort out the culture, but task him with finding a replacement like he did at Wigan with Peat.
He puts the club up for sale.

If he doesn't do one of these things, think we are in big trouble next year, pass sales down, we will start to lose the like of Staveley and Martin, constant decline and could see the club heading the way of Bradford.

I've defended Pearson and he has gone some very good things, but he has just about lost all of the good will.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:29 am 
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I think as soon as you give a coach an ultimatum of, you need to win x amount of games the writing is already on the wall.

I just don't see how Smith can turn anything around in the next few weeks

our defense, its the weakest I can remember. Smith keeps talking about a new technique he's trying to use. We don't control the ruck and our first contact is so poor. Then we have a non existent attack.

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Marcus's Bicycle wrote:With all this doom and gloom we need the distraction of something positive. How about a new range of overpriced low quality merchandise. Another super hero magic shirt should do it.


That was an awful performance the team put in wearing those Hulk shirts, 45-0 loss was it?

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Steve0 wrote:That was an awful performance the team put in wearing those Hulk shirts, 45-0 loss was it?


Yeah it was Holbrooks first game in charge at Saints.

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mwindass wrote:I think as soon as you give a coach an ultimatum of, you need to win x amount of games the writing is already on the wall.

I just don't see how Smith can turn anything around in the next few weeks

our defense, its the weakest I can remember. Smith keeps talking about a new technique he's trying to use. We don't control the ruck and our first contact is so poor. Then we have a non existent attack.


I don't suppose he will be told, but can't see how he could survive a cup exit and another embarrassing defeat in a derby.

He reasons for dropping Lewis Martin really annoyed me, a bit like the reason he said Hoy was dropped for, if that was the reason, most of the team would have been dropped at some point, but he clearly has his favorites.

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Dave K. wrote:I don't suppose he will be told, but can't see how he could survive a cup exit and another embarrassing defeat in a derby.

He reasons for dropping Lewis Martin really annoyed me, a bit like the reason he said Hoy was dropped for, if that was the reason, most of the team would have been dropped at some point, but he clearly has his favorites.


Yeah I agree, I think he'll get the next 2 gamed and once we're pumped in both he'll be gone. I'd just rather get it done 2 weeks earlier.

I think most people understand the squad is lacking in quality, but our structures are so poor and Smith is making some odd selections. That's on him.

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mwindass wrote:Yeah I agree, I think he'll get the next 2 gamed and once we're pumped in both he'll be gone. I'd just rather get it done 2 weeks earlier.

I think most people understand the squad is lacking in quality, but our structures are so poor and Smith is making some odd selections. That's on him.


100%, we have a poor squad, but he team selections and bench use has been poor.

Even we our squad we shouldn't be struggling to beat London and get beat by a leigh side missing their 4 best players from last season.

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