Joined: Sep 14 2009 Posts: 1606 Location: on route to old trafford via wembley
Hasbag wrote:Just beyond ridiculous now. Yeah our discipline has bee shocking but our players are doing nothing that other players aren't doing (barring Pele ) and we're getting somebody banned every single week whereas other teams are getting nothing. We're just stuck in a cycle so far of getting 1 player back from suspension and losing another straight away.
Just take the positives out of it, that our youngsters are getting some game experience and a platform out on the field to show what they can do.
Joined: Sep 14 2009 Posts: 1606 Location: on route to old trafford via wembley
boardwalkempire4 wrote:Agree bishops finger. Anyone who has watched the other televised games. Our discipline is poor compared to other teams. The Tackling technique hasn’t improved at all The first minute try conceded against Catalans was school boy defending. Our marker defence at times is lazy. Really don’t know what the coaching staff are doing.
Said at the weekend Ashworth would get 2 matches. Its new rules and you can’t make tackles like that anymore. It’s no good complaining about the rfl. the coaches and club have to get this sorted . FC are standout the worst disciplined club in SL.
Its odds on Pele will cop a ban against Leigh.
What do you mean that you can't make tackles like that anymore?
There's already been lots of tackles like that so far this season, the only difference is that both defender and attacker, accidentally clashed heads. Had they not accidentally clashed heads. The game would have just played on. Everyone would have said "what a good hit by Ashworth" and we wouldn't be even having this conversation.
Would you say a very similar tackle that didn't have an accidental head clash and no injury should also be a yellow card and a 3 game ban?
Joined: Jan 30 2004 Posts: 8185 Location: Never never land away with the fairies
Well at least there’s one positive for me, can now call someone I don’t like the ‘C’ word without offending women or children in earshot simply by calling them a ‘Cullen’
Seriously though both AP and TS have to make a stand against the RFL/MRP and speak out directly and publicly, even if that means short term pain for long term gain. As sitting back, saying nothing and being nice does and has done sweet FA for us.
Accidental head clashes will always happen in a full contact game especially when two very big bodies come into contact with each other.
There’s a huge difference between and intentional head contact and accidental yet the RFL/MRP seem to view Percival’s reckless and totally unavoidable shoulder to the head a lesser offence than an accidental clash of heads of which Chris seems to lower his head at the last second to to drive into the tackle with his shoulder and hit Jack around the top of his chest initially which rocks both players heads back. With that amount of contact if it was direct head to head contact you’d expect to see some form of damage on both Chris’ and/or Jacks face but there wasn’t even a mark left. Seems to me it was more a case of the affects of whiplash from the collision of a perfectly legal tackle.
So in view of the MRP as a player you are better off recklessly using a shoulder in the tackle like Percival as that seems to be seen as a lesser offence.
I really enjoy long walks especially when they are taken by people I don't like!
bishops finger wrote:Your the most penalised team and you've had the most players suspended apparently, I wonder if Smith actually took the new tackle rules seriously during preseason and worked on new tackling techniques, because looking from the outside it wouldn't appear so. Thankfully the MRP got the Brown decision right and you can argue the Ashworths ban is harsh, but the reality is that FC players are still putting themselves in these positions when other teams seem to have got to grips with it a lot better.
Did you see the Wigan v Huddersfield game the other week? Or the attempted tackle by Matty English on Chan of Wigan in the second half?
Something happened there because English staggered away from the challenge and nearly collapsed. Players from both teams rushed to him to hold him up. After treatment he went off for a HIA which he presumably failed because he never returned and missed their game this weekend.
Now that challenge was never replayed on tv or even mentioned by the commentators. But the seriousness of his condition means something must have happened? But it just seems to be ignored by everyone?
Contrast that with the way every tackle by our players is getting scrutinised by sky/the commentators/mrp and it just isn’t on.
Cokey wrote:Would AP back Degsey if he called for a new introduction of an elite league, and a breakaway from SL with sufficient funding?
I think we could potentially be moving into that area . Those running the game should be worried about a possible take over and themselves been kick out of the game by people who know how to run it properly .
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