christopher wrote:Was slso great to see how much it means to Goudemand to play for us. Newman seems like a reformed character and despite what the Salford fans think Croft looks like hes loving life at Leeds so far.
christopher wrote:In think it was because Goudemand had his family came over to watch him.
People on here know I’m a big fan of Rohan but even if you’re not a fan of him as a coach i think it’s clear to see why hes a good man manager and why the players like him.
I'm actually impressed with pretty much everything he does off the pitch. The big problem is, he's the first team coach and only one thing really matters - results!
OK so far, with 2 from 3, even though performances have been scratchy. If we lose to Leigh and Saints, he will be immediately under pressure. There's one way to avoid that pressure of course...
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christopher wrote:Was slso great to see how much it means to Goudemand to play for us. Newman seems like a reformed character and despite what the Salford fans think Croft looks like hes loving life at Leeds so far.
Nice to hear more of Rohans team talks aswell
Like everyone else on here we want Smith to be highly successful. Also we are only 3 games into the season so it’s definitely a bit early to draw any conclusions. At least you have admitted you are a big Smith fan, I am assuming we have spent up to the salary cap limit as per Saints Wigan and Warrington. So if we don’t finish in the top four and Saints and Wigan are in the top four that to me is a failure. Undoubtedly smith is a decent bloke as per Sinfield late of this parish. Unfortunately being nice doesn’t translate onto the pitch and winning games. Hence the English rugby union management giving Sinfield the push. He now is the most highly paid water carrier in the world. If I recall last season when Smith was under pressure you claimed he was having to get rid of deadwood. This is now is Smiths team , personally I don’t think a top four finish is asking too much. You may note I am not even asking him to win any silverware .
I find Rohan a bit awkward and strange to be honest. I can see him rubbing lots of people up the wrong way. I'm not bothered though, as long as the team are happy and performing well.
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[quote="rugbyleague88"]I find Rohan a bit awkward and strange to be honest. I can see him rubbing lots of people up the wrong way. I'm not bothered though, as long as the team are happy and performing well.[/ Correct.
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Backwoodsman wrote:Like everyone else on here we want Smith to be highly successful. Also we are only 3 games into the season so it’s definitely a bit early to draw any conclusions. At least you have admitted you are a big Smith fan, I am assuming we have spent up to the salary cap limit as per Saints Wigan and Warrington. So if we don’t finish in the top four and Saints and Wigan are in the top four that to me is a failure. Undoubtedly smith is a decent bloke as per Sinfield late of this parish. Unfortunately being nice doesn’t translate onto the pitch and winning games. Hence the English rugby union management giving Sinfield the push. He now is the most highly paid water carrier in the world. If I recall last season when Smith was under pressure you claimed he was having to get rid of deadwood. This is now is Smiths team , personally I don’t think a top four finish is asking too much. You may note I am not even asking him to win any silverware .
I don’t particularly disagree with you on the results aspect this year.
The reason i like Smith is because he’s got a different approach (I understand that’s why dome dislike his coaching style)
I like people that challenge convention otherwise things just stay the same.
Apparently Matty Peet has a similar way of coaching, taking a lot from other sports and other forms of management. It’s probably down to them being career coaches not ex players .
As you’ve rightly said though it’s results that ultimately count.
[quote="Backwoodsman"] I'm not an avid fan of the 15 man game, but I think you're been a bit hard on Sinfield. From what I gather he was a massive success at Leicester, and that's why he was fast tracked into the national set up. He wouldn't be the first RL scapegoat on the back of the RU teams poor performance, would he?
People who are against Rohan just don’t like his personality in the main, fair enough.
Results-wise he has successfully clearly out loads of dead wood, sometimes quite brutally. Gone are the likes of Dwyer, Sutcliffe, Tindall, Austin. Sezer, Myler…
He knows what he wants in a player and he demands high standards. I still think he is too close to “nice guys” like Donno when they probably shouldn’t be playing first grade but hey.
Injuries also have a huge impact on success it isn’t all in the coach’s hands, as much as it would be nice if the world was so simple. Our wheels fell off last year off the back of an injury crisis and unrest caused by specific players in my view.
I think a fit Leeds team is absolutely capable of top 4 so let’s see how it pans out. Some of you will never like RS: but then Brian Mac got a ton of abuse too after being phenomenally successful….
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[quote="ArthurClues"] As you say he was a massive success at Leicester. His task for England was defensive coach. Unfortunately over his tenure they conceded a lot of points. You are probably right regarding him being made a scapegoat. Certainly England haven’t improved since his demotion. His England contract is complete after the close of the six nations. Be interesting as to his next career move.
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