When we've been beaten in these in previous years we've pointed to a lack of size and it's what makes those losses so frustrating. You have 2 huge lads in Havard and Walters missing (as well as probably the next in line after Walters in Nsemba) and Thompson is that sort of quick, powerful forward that makes up for any lack in physcial size. They'd make a pretty big difference I think but the losses might not be terminal (keeping Havard, Nsemba and Walters hidden from NRL eyes might not hurt in the long run mind).

One thing I would like to think is that we can have another couple of cracks at this over the lifetime of this team/squad (the next 5 years or so) and while we all want to win tomorrow, this feels like the start of this teams journey and the experience will help whatever the result. Saints win last year felt like something they'd built towards for 5 years, with all their success and guys like Roby and LMS retiring at the end of that season. The feel around this game for Wigan is a bit different IMO.

Thompson is the big one for me - if we'd have had 5 senior front rowers with Thompson doing a good stint from the start I'd probably have felt a little better. Hill will have a crack but I think this game is a bit early for him. Peet will have a game plan but there won't be any margin for error.

I do agree but he is more experienced then one of their young props (Liam Henry) so that could be a good match up for him and a good time to bring him on.

Agree about Thompson. Having him and Cooper on the field together would have been a big plus. I like Hill. I think that he will enjoy the physicality of the game. Byrne could be the lad to really step up tomorrow.

Can you park on the car park behind the East Stand? You could pay on there towards the back end of last season. Just wondering if you can tomorrow.

Never mind - sorted. You can and it's £5

Anyone going to brickmakers? Riding solo today

Just been to jawbone it's closed, nearest pub in that area is th Queens

Bent. Hopefully the Aussies boycott it in the future amateur hour officiating.

Leeds fan here - just wanted to say congrats for the win there tonight, Peet is a classy coach and Wigan did SL proud tonight.

Well done from a fc fan here….with your bench decimated,you bloody hung in there and came down to the 2trys,thought it was a try at the end but who bloody cares…you stuffed it up the aussies and no dodgy red cards