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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:27 pm 
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The Wire Guardian report featuring the stats gives clarity on why we struggled. Not for the first time we struggled on power running from the forwards & backs. Their wingers proving a real handful again.

Guardian Comments:
"The Catalans forwards made 60 more metres than their Warrington counterparts from four fewer carries across the whole game - they carried for 661m from 82 carries at an average of just over eight metres each, with 125 of those metres coming from Chris Satae, who was impressive off the bench.
Between them, the Wire big men made 601m from 86 carries, averaging 6.98m per carry.
Perhaps the biggest disparity, though, can be found in kick return metres – Catalans made 69 compared to Wire’s 26, illustrating the struggles the visitors had in keeping the home side penned to their own line.
Perhaps the biggest indicator of that was the game-high 164 metres made by Dragons winger Tom Davies, with his fellow winger Tom Johnstone (111) and centre Arthur Romano (104) also reaching three figures."
https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sp ... tch-srars/

The Wire Guardian report featuring the stats gives clarity on why we struggled. Not for the first time we struggled on power running from the forwards & backs. Their wingers proving a real handful again.

Guardian Comments:
"The Catalans forwards made 60 more metres than their Warrington counterparts from four fewer carries across the whole game - they carried for 661m from 82 carries at an average of just over eight metres each, with 125 of those metres coming from Chris Satae, who was impressive off the bench.
Between them, the Wire big men made 601m from 86 carries, averaging 6.98m per carry.
Perhaps the biggest disparity, though, can be found in kick return metres – Catalans made 69 compared to Wire’s 26, illustrating the struggles the visitors had in keeping the home side penned to their own line.
Perhaps the biggest indicator of that was the game-high 164 metres made by Dragons winger Tom Davies, with his fellow winger Tom Johnstone (111) and centre Arthur Romano (104) also reaching three figures."

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 Post subject: Re: Todays match v Catalan
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:25 am 
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King really put himself about and was constantly looking for work, which was really good to see.
I suspect there will be 2, maybe 3 changes next week.
Dudson out and Bullock (possibly wood) in.
Lindop out with Thewlis coming in.
And i don't know if Ratchford was Injured, but he MIGHT come in for Wrench.
Will be interesting to see what we do at Hull with them missing basically their forward pack. If Ese'ese is banned as well they're basically running with Jack Ashworth Jack Brown that's it.

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 Post subject: Re: Todays match v Catalan
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:34 am 
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It going to take time for the new rules to settle in the minds of players, coaches, refs and fans. Not ideal to lose the first game, but its not season defining.

Its a shame we saw nothing different from last season and in the case of attacking in the final 30 metres nothing new from multiple seasons past. Nice to see King putting himself about, hope it continues.

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 Post subject: Re: Todays match v Catalan
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:03 am 
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Snaggletooth wrote:It going to take time for the new rules to settle in the minds of players, coaches, refs and fans. Not ideal to lose the first game, but its not season defining.

Its a shame we saw nothing different from last season and in the case of attacking in the final 30 metres nothing new from multiple seasons past..


We need to play Hayes at 7 ASAP.

Burgess is giving Drinkwater a chance to prove himself, but I didn`t see any difference on Saturday.

Hayes will make a big difference once he is given a regular gig.

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 Post subject: Re: Todays match v Catalan
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:20 am 
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I’m hoping the attack sorts itself out, Gleeson has a good rep, so hopefully it will start to improve as these first few weeks progress.

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 Post subject: Re: Todays match v Catalan
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I think next week's match should give us a much better idea of where this team are likely to finish over the season.

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 Post subject: Re: Todays match v Catalan
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Winslade's Offload wrote:I think next week's match should give us a much better idea of where this team are likely to finish over the season.

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Hull FC are a basket case aren't they? They consistently under perform based on resources and following. They were way off the pace vs KR. Beating FC with a number of their forwards out is not going to tell me much.

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 Post subject: Re: Todays match v Catalan
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:27 pm 
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Smiffy27 wrote:https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sport/24126866.catalans-dragons-16-warrington-wolves-10-match-srars/

The Wire Guardian report featuring the stats gives clarity on why we struggled. Not for the first time we struggled on power running from the forwards & backs. Their wingers proving a real handful again.

Guardian Comments:
"The Catalans forwards made 60 more metres than their Warrington counterparts from four fewer carries across the whole game - they carried for 661m from 82 carries at an average of just over eight metres each, with 125 of those metres coming from Chris Satae, who was impressive off the bench.
Between them, the Wire big men made 601m from 86 carries, averaging 6.98m per carry.
Perhaps the biggest disparity, though, can be found in kick return metres – Catalans made 69 compared to Wire’s 26, illustrating the struggles the visitors had in keeping the home side penned to their own line.
Perhaps the biggest indicator of that was the game-high 164 metres made by Dragons winger Tom Davies, with his fellow winger Tom Johnstone (111) and centre Arthur Romano (104) also reaching three figures."



This is nothing new for the Wire ,it has been a major problem for the last 5 years or more. We are getting marched down field too easily in defence but are unable make enough progress when in possession. Defence really can win games.

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 Post subject: Re: Todays match v Catalan
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:47 pm 
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Wires71 wrote:Hull FC are a basket case aren't they? They consistently under perform based on resources and following. They were way off the pace vs KR. Beating FC with a number of their forwards out is not going to tell me much.



If we lose it might well do.

I will be looking at the self-enforced errors, set completion, coordination between Williams and Drinkwater, defence, team spirit etc. ie all the stuff that we have control over and must have been practicing for weeks. Saints always seem to do these aspects better than us and until we have upped our standards we have no chance of beating the better coached teams in the league.

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 Post subject: Re: Todays match v Catalan
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:54 pm 
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Question will be how long will Burgess persist with certain players before shaking it up. It seems the likes of Currie / Drinkwater / Dudson / Philbin have carried on as they were last season. I'm all for a settled team but for me it is same old same old. He should lay a marker down and drop for example Currie and Drinkwater for the Hull game and bring in Hayes. Maybe cover back row with Harrison and bring Bullock back. We have nothing to lose and although Hull could easily bounce back, i'd expect us to beat them especially at home.

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