FORUMS FORUMS




  

Home Warrington Wolves Half Back



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 16 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Half Back
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:14 pm 
Player Coach
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: Jul 22 2010
Posts: 2997
Location: Appleton Thorn
George Williams's thoughts on Leon Hayes's Development confirms my thoughts that we need some more half back cover. From what I have seen Leon needs more time before he can play regularly at Super League level. Mind you I have been wrong before.

From the Guardian
At the age of just 19, however, Williams believes rushing the Warringtonian’s development would be to his detriment.
“Leon’s had a glimpse of first-team but I think he needs 12 months of playing against men now,” he said.
“That could be on dual-registration when the time comes – there’s some good teams in the Championship and he’ll certainly learn his trade there.
“He’ll be really good for us over time but we can’t rush him too quick – if we’re talking about trying to win a Grand Final, it’s a big ask for a young kid.”

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Half Back
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:23 pm 
Player Coach
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: Oct 06 2005
Posts: 2881
Location: Warrington
We have Ratchford and Powell who can play in the halves if needed. We can't really bring in a back up half - who would that be?

We just need a better one than Drinkwater, but that will have to wait until next season.






Ettinghausen's gone ice skatin'

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Half Back
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:35 pm 
Player Coach
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: Jul 22 2010
Posts: 2997
Location: Appleton Thorn
As I'd like another prop too ... what we really could do with is a prop/half back cover ... Les Boyd.
Though (as an ex-half back) I still cannot see why Thewlis can't play half back.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Half Back
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:13 pm 
Player Coach
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Jun 25 2006
Posts: 14271
Location: Forum21
Who said "Argue for your limitations and they are yours?"

Some halfbacks that sprung to mind and their age when securing a first team place.

Andy Gregory 19
Shaun Edwards 17
Sean Long 18
Tommy Martyn 18
Bobby Goulding 17
Lewis Dodd 19
Johnny Lomax 19

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Half Back
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:17 pm 
Player Coach
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: Oct 06 2005
Posts: 2881
Location: Warrington
Add Briers to the list






Ettinghausen's gone ice skatin'

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Half Back
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:24 pm 
Player Coach
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Jun 25 2006
Posts: 14271
Location: Forum21
It's all sounding like the Warrington Wolves Half back development programme again. -> Taste of first team -> Short Loan -> Extended Loan -> Lower Grade RL

I've lost count of how many have done that route.


Last edited by Wires71 on Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:25 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Half Back
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:25 pm 
Player Coach
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: Jul 22 2010
Posts: 2997
Location: Appleton Thorn
Wires71 wrote:Who said "Argue for your limitations and they are yours?"

Some halfbacks that sprung to mind and their age when securing a first team place.

Andy Gregory 19
Shaun Edwards 17
Sean Long 18
Tommy Martyn 18
Bobby Goulding 17
Lewis Dodd 19
Johnny Lomax 19



I'm not certain what you are getting at here, But (I will guess) If a player is good enough (and at half back ... it usually means quick enough off the mark) then I would put them in early. But my instincts tell me that Hayes he is not ready yet. Williams seems to agree,
Just to clarify thoughts ... you usually need to be "poop off a shovel" to play half-back if you are small otherwise you get hurt,


Last edited by Smiffy27 on Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Half Back
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:26 pm 
Player Coach
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: Jan 27 2008
Posts: 3280
Location: Dubai
Hayes seemed to cope fine defensively against the big guys. I can only assume it’s something else that is holding him back. When he played he looked like a great little organiser. Relative to Drinkwater, anyway. I’m encouraged by what Williams has said about Drinkwater’a fitness. Looks like he’s a bit more committed this year already, so will give him a chance.

On a side note, I was also encouraged by Toby King’s attitude, as he seems to have matured a bit and is taking ownership of a few things. He even mentions that he wasn’t first choice at centre when he first came back. Good to know Burgess is on top of things in that regard, picking players on what he sees rather than what they’ve done previously.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Half Back
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:28 pm 
Fringe Player
Junior Player

Joined: Dec 23 2021
Posts: 202
If he's good enough - he's good enough. Powell or Ratchford at half back won't win us a GF (or many games either)

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Half Back
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:32 pm 
Player Coach
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Jun 25 2006
Posts: 14271
Location: Forum21
Smiffy27 wrote:I'm not certain what you are getting at here, But (I will guess) If a player is good enough (and at half back ... it usually means quick enough off the mark) then I would put them in early. But my instincts tell me that Hayes he is not ready yet. Williams seems to agree,


Yes it seems that he is "not ready yet" which is basically code for "not good enough yet" at 19. This is sad.

Can you name a young Warrington halfback who has benefited from going on loan to come back and secure the starting halfback role for a period of time?

I'm just worried this sounds all too familiar.

Hulse, Durbin, Patton, Dean etc - sure I have missed a few.

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 16 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next





It is currently Tue Feb 18, 2025 3:19 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: wire-wire, Wolves17 and 178 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Tue Feb 18, 2025 3:19 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6m
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
Mr. Zucchini
358
11m
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
65137
12m
Todays match v Giants
Lord Tony Sm
111
13m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Windy winger
5057
14m
Film game
BOSS HOG
7880
22m
Barrow at home
Tony Fax
38
27m
Super League
Dr Dreadnoug
125
52m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
leeds owl
3102
60m
Hull KR at home this Thursday evening
phe13
17
Recent
Pele
Highlander
6
Recent
Wigan Warriors - Home
UllFC
27
Recent
Leeds v Wakefield
christopher
193
Recent
Sheffield away
Greg Florimo
30
Recent
The Bench - Kris Radlinski
Mark_P1973
11
Recent
Vegas - A travelling supporters guide
bonnie
10
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2s
Super League
Dr Dreadnoug
125
2s
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
Mr. Zucchini
358
3s
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41758
8s
Other Championship Teams
Bullseye
6
13s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
leeds owl
3102
13s
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
65137
14s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Windy winger
5057
16s
Todays match v Giants
Lord Tony Sm
111
18s
Wakefield Trinity Heritage Podcast - Season 4
JamieRobinso
13
19s
Leigh h
Phuzzy
101
21s
Pele
Highlander
6
23s
Social Media
Dr Dreadnoug
33
26s
Salford Supermarket Sweep
Bent&Bon
92
28s
The Bench - Kris Radlinski
Mark_P1973
11
29s
Film game
BOSS HOG
7880
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Round 2 - Hunslet A
Bullseye
3
TODAY
Hull KR at home this Thursday evening
phe13
17
TODAY
After match tv
upthetrin92
3
TODAY
Vs Warrington
Murphy
2
TODAY
Who is available
Droopy
4
TODAY
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 2
tigertot
5
TODAY
The Bench - Kris Radlinski
Mark_P1973
11
TODAY
Other Championship Teams
Bullseye
6
TODAY
Pele
Highlander
6
TODAY
lilley
paulwalker71
6
TODAY
Huddersfield H
RugbyEgg
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors - Home
UllFC
27
TODAY
Goole Vikings
Rugby Raider
5
TODAY
Next week v Fev
Victor
5
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Off To A Winning Start Over the Huddersfield Giants
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Ronan Michael podcast
Bullseye
1
TODAY
Superleague
BOSS HOG
22
TODAY
Todays match v Giants
Lord Tony Sm
111
TODAY
Salford
Another Cas
16
TODAY
Stats thread
Shifty Cat
4
TODAY
IMG
Deadcowboys1
6
TODAY
St Helens Record Highest Winning Margin In Super League As They Thrash Salford
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Next round of Challenge Cup
Bully_Boxer
3
TODAY
Challenge cup draw
Big lads mat
12
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Off To A Win..
296
St Helens Record Highest Winni..
449
Challenge Cup 2025 - Fourth Ro..
733
Wakefield Trinity Mark Return ..
512
Hull FC Start Season With Big ..
331
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Poin..
595
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
787
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
788
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
839
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
770
Betfred Super League Season Se..
987
Thirteen Try York Knights Set ..
951
Comfortable Ash Handley Testim..
1594
Workington Town Set Up Leigh L..
1387
Historic Goole Vikings Win Ove..
1448
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington - Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
Sun 16th Feb
SL 1 Huddersfield12-20Warrington
CH 1 Bradford20-6LondonB
CH 1 Featherstone22-4Doncaster
CH 1 Oldham50-4York
CH 1 Sheffield14-28Halifax
CH 1 Barrow36-12Hunslet
1895 0 Goole V26-18Crusaders
1895 0 Workington10-18Dewsbury
1895 0 Rochdale18-16Swinton
1895 0 Keighley7-6Midlands
Sat 15th Feb
SL1 Leeds12-14Wakefield
SL 1 St.Helens82-0Salford
CH 1 Toulouse14-18Widnes
Fri 14th Feb
SL 1 Hull KR19-18Castleford
SL 1 Catalans4-24Hull FC
Thu 13th Feb
SL 1 Wigan0-1Leigh
Sun 9th Feb
CC2025 3 Bradford18-16Castleford
CC2025 3 Featherstone68-0Ince R
CC2025 3 Hunslet6-34Huddersfield
CC2025 3 Midlands10-46Salford
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6m
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
Mr. Zucchini
358
11m
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
65137
12m
Todays match v Giants
Lord Tony Sm
111
13m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Windy winger
5057
14m
Film game
BOSS HOG
7880
22m
Barrow at home
Tony Fax
38
27m
Super League
Dr Dreadnoug
125
52m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
leeds owl
3102
60m
Hull KR at home this Thursday evening
phe13
17
Recent
Pele
Highlander
6
Recent
Wigan Warriors - Home
UllFC
27
Recent
Leeds v Wakefield
christopher
193
Recent
Sheffield away
Greg Florimo
30
Recent
The Bench - Kris Radlinski
Mark_P1973
11
Recent
Vegas - A travelling supporters guide
bonnie
10
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2s
Super League
Dr Dreadnoug
125
2s
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
Mr. Zucchini
358
3s
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41758
8s
Other Championship Teams
Bullseye
6
13s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
leeds owl
3102
13s
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
65137
14s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Windy winger
5057
16s
Todays match v Giants
Lord Tony Sm
111
18s
Wakefield Trinity Heritage Podcast - Season 4
JamieRobinso
13
19s
Leigh h
Phuzzy
101
21s
Pele
Highlander
6
23s
Social Media
Dr Dreadnoug
33
26s
Salford Supermarket Sweep
Bent&Bon
92
28s
The Bench - Kris Radlinski
Mark_P1973
11
29s
Film game
BOSS HOG
7880
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Round 2 - Hunslet A
Bullseye
3
TODAY
Hull KR at home this Thursday evening
phe13
17
TODAY
After match tv
upthetrin92
3
TODAY
Vs Warrington
Murphy
2
TODAY
Who is available
Droopy
4
TODAY
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 2
tigertot
5
TODAY
The Bench - Kris Radlinski
Mark_P1973
11
TODAY
Other Championship Teams
Bullseye
6
TODAY
Pele
Highlander
6
TODAY
lilley
paulwalker71
6
TODAY
Huddersfield H
RugbyEgg
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors - Home
UllFC
27
TODAY
Goole Vikings
Rugby Raider
5
TODAY
Next week v Fev
Victor
5
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Off To A Winning Start Over the Huddersfield Giants
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Ronan Michael podcast
Bullseye
1
TODAY
Superleague
BOSS HOG
22
TODAY
Todays match v Giants
Lord Tony Sm
111
TODAY
Salford
Another Cas
16
TODAY
Stats thread
Shifty Cat
4
TODAY
IMG
Deadcowboys1
6
TODAY
St Helens Record Highest Winning Margin In Super League As They Thrash Salford
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Next round of Challenge Cup
Bully_Boxer
3
TODAY
Challenge cup draw
Big lads mat
12
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Off To A Win..
296
St Helens Record Highest Winni..
449
Challenge Cup 2025 - Fourth Ro..
733
Wakefield Trinity Mark Return ..
512
Hull FC Start Season With Big ..
331
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Poin..
595
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
787
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
788
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
839
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
770
Betfred Super League Season Se..
987
Thirteen Try York Knights Set ..
951
Comfortable Ash Handley Testim..
1594
Workington Town Set Up Leigh L..
1387
Historic Goole Vikings Win Ove..
1448


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.