Post subject: Re: Duel Reg agreement with Wigan Warriors
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:30 am
The Phantom Horseman
International Star
Joined: Sep 24 2012 Posts: 1085
Shifty Cat wrote:You've said this a few times about ME spending the full SL Cap, they're not. He said Obviously a nice bit of change and probably the most of any Champ club this year but I don't think it competes with that year Toronto when they signed Sonny Bill etc. Tbh when Leigh came up DB said they'd spent more than a few SL clubs if I'm not mistaken.
I don't think any other Championship club has spent even £500k this year.
Post subject: Re: Duel Reg agreement with Wigan Warriors
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:20 am
Shifty Cat
Player Coach
Joined: Sep 20 2009 Posts: 5792
The Phantom Horseman wrote:I don't think any other Championship club has spent even £500k this year.
It's funny this year that a couple of teams like Feath and Leigh in the past have splashed the cash and given it at crack but obviously IMG has changed a few owner's minds on whether it's worth it or if they can afford it again. Toulouse has a new owner making a bit of noise, so I don't know what they're spending atm. Anyway from my point of view and everyone on this board hopefully with the new owner, coach, and experienced backing staff, plus the clear-out, and as you say more money spent than other teams,(can't say I've said that before) hopefully come to the end of the season it's all paid off. But as you know and other sides have found out over the years, both in the Championship and also SL, splashing the cash isn't the be-all and end-all. Like what you did last year when you won the season easily but just didn't turn up in the one that mattered, that's all it takes for your money to have gone down the drain. With IMG coming in though it isn't everything that we win the comp, although the points would be a bonus, we just have to be up there in the league and the Cup.
Post subject: Re: Duel Reg agreement with Wigan Warriors
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:02 am
PopTart
Moderator
Joined: Oct 04 2008 Posts: 21044 Location: wakefield
Shifty Cat wrote:It's funny this year that a couple of teams like Feath and Leigh in the past have splashed the cash and given it at crack but obviously IMG has changed a few owner's minds on whether it's worth it or if they can afford it again. Toulouse has a new owner making a bit of noise, so I don't know what they're spending atm. Anyway from my point of view and everyone on this board hopefully with the new owner, coach, and experienced backing staff, plus the clear-out, and as you say more money spent than other teams,(can't say I've said that before) hopefully come to the end of the season it's all paid off. But as you know and other sides have found out over the years, both in the Championship and also SL, splashing the cash isn't the be-all and end-all. Like what you did last year when you won the season easily but just didn't turn up in the one that mattered, that's all it takes for your money to have gone down the drain. With IMG coming in though it isn't everything that we win the comp, although the points would be a bonus, we just have to be up there in the league and the Cup.
No points for being 'up there' in the cup. Only for winning.
We have the advantage over all the other Bs that we started our development earlier. The decision to focus on the stadium was massive in IMG terms. The others are now trying to catch up.
I do think league and Cup points will be important to us. They are points our completion already in SL can't get.
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha
Post subject: Re: Duel Reg agreement with Wigan Warriors
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 12:16 pm
KevW60349
Club Captain
Joined: Aug 28 2015 Posts: 910
PopTart wrote:No points for being 'up there' in the cup. Only for winning.
We have the advantage over all the other Bs that we started our development earlier. The decision to focus on the stadium was massive in IMG terms. The others are now trying to catch up.
I do think league and Cup points will be important to us. They are points our completion already in SL can't get.
PT, what's the max total number of IMG points available to us on the results side of things in the championship.
Post subject: Re: Duel Reg agreement with Wigan Warriors
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:33 pm
The Phantom Horseman
International Star
Joined: Sep 24 2012 Posts: 1085
Shifty Cat wrote:It's funny this year that a couple of teams like Feath and Leigh in the past have splashed the cash and given it at crack but obviously IMG has changed a few owner's minds on whether it's worth it or if they can afford it again. Toulouse has a new owner making a bit of noise, so I don't know what they're spending atm. Anyway from my point of view and everyone on this board hopefully with the new owner, coach, and experienced backing staff, plus the clear-out, and as you say more money spent than other teams,(can't say I've said that before) hopefully come to the end of the season it's all paid off. But as you know and other sides have found out over the years, both in the Championship and also SL, splashing the cash isn't the be-all and end-all. Like what you did last year when you won the season easily but just didn't turn up in the one that mattered, that's all it takes for your money to have gone down the drain. With IMG coming in though it isn't everything that we win the comp, although the points would be a bonus, we just have to be up there in the league and the Cup.
The club officials at Fev knew last season it was now or never in terms of SL, and if promotion had been based on the regular season it would have paid off, but as you say in knockout games anything can happen. The IMG system is so unfavourable towards Fev that there's little point in making such a big financial push this year as even winning the Grand Final and the 1895 Cup would still leave us with zero chance of making SL.
Toulouse are not spending either, they lost their best player from last season Josh Ralph for financial reasons and still haven't replaced him at half back, they're a shadow of the side they were in 2021 when they were very good.
I'm not really sure where any opposition to Wakefield could come from this season, Bradford at least have the benefit of some continuity this year and might finish second by default unless York, who have made some good signings, finally come good. At the moment it looks like the weakest Championship since the pre-Toronto days and of course unlike previous years it's unlikely the play-offs will have much impact on who gets promoted.
Post subject: Re: Duel Reg agreement with Wigan Warriors
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:35 pm
imwakefieldtillidie
Player Coach
Joined: Sep 16 2009 Posts: 2413
[quote="Shifty Cat"With IMG coming in though it isn't everything that we win the comp, although the points would be a bonus, we just have to be up there in the league and the Cup.[/quote]
And that's what Rugby League has become, winning isn't everything.
Post subject: Re: Duel Reg agreement with Wigan Warriors
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:58 pm
jonh
International Board Member
Joined: May 27 2003 Posts: 20430 Location: educating League Freak on all things rugby league
imwakefieldtillidie wrote:And that's what Rugby League has become, winning isn't everything.
Sadly with the precarious state of the game and some of the clubs it’s the route we have to go down in the short term.
Hopefully in the next 5 or so years with the improvements being driven by IMG we can return to a system where winning and losing are the process by which teams position in the top flight are decided.
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