Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:50 pm
RAPIDO
Fringe Player
Joined: Mar 03 2023 Posts: 646
MadDogg wrote:Seemed like he was causing Warrington and St Helens all kinds of problems when he was running a little wider in the away games against them this year.
He's going to a club that sees the value in the person aswell as playing ability he got dicked around by us no question and I think under Peet he'll come into his own.
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:45 am
Leeds_Luke
International Star
Joined: Jan 25 2012 Posts: 472 Location: 3 Miles From HQ
I don't think Walters' interview tells us anything new. We knew he felt underplayed, we knew he felt he played out of position, and we knew he was away from family and friends whilst in Leeds.
The rest is just meaningless waffle. Everyone talks up their new club, he doesn't know the current training intensity at Leeds, and the culture is rather subjective. Some players talked negatively about the culture at Leeds during the 'Golden Generation'. Others didn't.
For what it's worth, I still think that Holroyd has it in him to be a better player than Walters. I suspect I'm not alone on thinking that.
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:09 am
Once were Loiners
First Team Player
Joined: Dec 15 2021 Posts: 1250
Walters was collateral damage to what had to happen to rebuild the side. We've seen Smith can be ruthless, and needed to be to get senior, highly paid players out and new ones in. I have some sympathy if he had no interest in talking to Walters about playing in the second row when we're fairly well stacked there. Probably just said we see you as a prop end of conversation.
Its not maybe the best approach but understandable in the context of trying to manage games with a bunch of senior players he wanted to replace. The whole thing may have gone very differently if it was just Walters he was dealing with.
My view, FWIW, is that Walters looks like a prop with real potential. I've no doubt he can do some damage wider out but I'm not sure he's got the mobility or workrate for second row. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up moving to the front row longer term whoever he plays for.
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:23 am
RAPIDO
Fringe Player
Joined: Mar 03 2023 Posts: 646
Once were Loiners wrote:Walters was collateral damage to what had to happen to rebuild the side. We've seen Smith can be ruthless, and needed to be to get senior, highly paid players out and new ones in. I have some sympathy if he had no interest in talking to Walters about playing in the second row when we're fairly well stacked there. Probably just said we see you as a prop end of conversation.
Its not maybe the best approach but understandable in the context of trying to manage games with a bunch of senior players he wanted to replace. The whole thing may have gone very differently if it was just Walters he was dealing with.
My view, FWIW, is that Walters looks like a prop with real potential. I've no doubt he can do some damage wider out but I'm not sure he's got the mobility or workrate for second row. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up moving to the front row longer term whoever he plays for.
Hes got all the tools to make a good 13 can carry the ball up well and has great hands and a good rugby brain.
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:08 am
KaeruJim
Club Captain
Joined: Oct 18 2018 Posts: 4719
Walters is very mobile for a lad of his size which is why he’s played England academy etc.
I dunno it’s all water under the bridge by now: he was a better bet than Hudson who is a similar player. But the Hudson gamble could yet pay off who knows.
It is genuinely hard to retain good players in this market I think. This is why it’s so important for Leeds to rebuild a bit of swagger as a club, where players want to come and stay here as #1 preference.
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:23 pm
chapylad
International Board Member
Joined: Aug 02 2002 Posts: 7258 Location: Wakefield but near to Leeds!
I think this was all about timing. He wanted a new contract and was prepared to stay at Leeds and probably felt like others those in front of him at prop were not performing. However his form the season prior wasn`t that good and I feel Smith didn`t want to commit so soon. He said as much himself that the younger players want their contracts sorting sooner rather than later. When he did get his chance and showed what he could do it was too late as Wigan came in for him told him he can play SR and he bit their hand off. I do think Smith would have kept him based on his form last season. Walters saying there`s more intensity at Wigan is like Jack Harrison saying he sees Dyche like Bielsa. It`s called sucking up.
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:26 pm
Jack Burton
Club Captain
Joined: Jun 15 2020 Posts: 2908
He's quick in a straight line because of his height, but his lateral movement isn't good. It's probably one of the main reasons Smith moved him to the middle.
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