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 Post subject: Re: IMG score
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:38 pm 
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Long term the capacity issues will be sorted via an East Extension and refurbished West, with more seating and more corporate. 13/14k capacity is more then adequate for us, so may as well have something unique.

I’d love a KC to be fair, but it’s a non starter so may as well make the ground as unique as possible and with the land available hopefully a campus like Wigan’s Robin park should be the aim

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 Post subject: Re: IMG score
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:20 pm 
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bonaire wrote:I can see your point but the fan experience didnt do Leigh much good on their ratings and having burger bars and street food instead of a stand for spectators at HKR shouldnt be seen by IMG as a positive when stadium criteria is part of their ratings.


Why should having a big stadium that's under utilized and empty ,score more highly then a full and vibrant stadium that attracts fans to the sport, looks great on TV and increases the exposure of the sport.

Many Hull fans see Craven StrEAT as just a few burger vans. It's far from just a few food stands, Contrary to popular belief we only have one burger van, the rest are made up of street vendors serving noodles, Kebab, Sweets, Pizzas, Tacos. Then we have the numerous drink outlets selling Cocktails, Spirits, Real ales.

StrEAT is open well in advance of kick off, makes a brilliant meeting point for fans to come, meet up and enjoy some quality pre match build up, time with friends and family, this all leads to a great atmosphere and overall matchday experience. We have live acts performing and a DJ after the game. Kids love it, We have a section side set aside for players to sign autographs and mingle with the fans. The fact it's also well placed within the stadium bowl increases it's appeal and whole feel of the place.

IMG are here to drive up standards. We all love this sport, we all want it to grow, and build, so lets be sensible about what increases the profile of the sport. Having big nice stadiums are great if they are full. When they are half full it negatively impacts on the image of the sport. Why should that be rewarded?

Would you guys not prefer a full and buzzing Boulevard to a half empty MKM?






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 Post subject: Re: IMG score
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:34 pm 
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Easty wrote:Why should having a big stadium that's under utilized and empty ,score more highly then a full and vibrant stadium that attracts fans to the sport,
Quote:looks great on TV
and increases the exposure of the sport.

Many Hull fans see Craven StrEAT as just a few burger vans. It's far from just a few food stands, Contrary to popular belief we only have one burger van, the rest are made up of street vendors serving noodles, Kebab, Sweets, Pizzas, Tacos. Then we have the numerous drink outlets selling Cocktails, Spirits, Real ales.

StrEAT is open well in advance of kick off, makes a brilliant meeting point for fans to come, meet up and enjoy some quality pre match build up, time with friends and family, this all leads to a great atmosphere and overall matchday experience. We have live acts performing and a DJ after the game. Kids love it, We have a section side set aside for players to sign autographs and mingle with the fans. The fact it's also well placed within the stadium bowl increases it's appeal and whole feel of the place.

IMG are here to drive up standards. We all love this sport, we all want it to grow, and build, so lets be sensible about what increases the profile of the sport. Having big nice stadiums are great if they are full. When they are half full it negatively impacts on the image of the sport. Why should that be rewarded?

Would you guys not prefer a full and buzzing Boulevard to a half empty MKM?


Have you counted how many stands it has?

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 Post subject: Re: IMG score
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:50 pm 
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Marcus's Bicycle wrote:Have you counted how many stands it has?


If we had four stands Craven StrEAT wouldn't have half the appeal it has.

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 Post subject: Re: IMG score
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 5:11 pm 
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Easty wrote:If we had four stands Craven StrEAT wouldn't have half the appeal it has.

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As you were saying it looks great on TV

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 Post subject: Re: IMG score
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 5:49 pm 
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Easty wrote:Why should having a big stadium that's under utilized and empty ,score more highly then a full and vibrant stadium that attracts fans to the sport, looks great on TV and increases the exposure of the sport.

Many Hull fans see Craven StrEAT as just a few burger vans. It's far from just a few food stands, Contrary to popular belief we only have one burger van, the rest are made up of street vendors serving noodles, Kebab, Sweets, Pizzas, Tacos. Then we have the numerous drink outlets selling Cocktails, Spirits, Real ales.

StrEAT is open well in advance of kick off, makes a brilliant meeting point for fans to come, meet up and enjoy some quality pre match build up, time with friends and family, this all leads to a great atmosphere and overall matchday experience. We have live acts performing and a DJ after the game. Kids love it, We have a section side set aside for players to sign autographs and mingle with the fans. The fact it's also well placed within the stadium bowl increases it's appeal and whole feel of the place.

IMG are here to drive up standards. We all love this sport, we all want it to grow, and build, so lets be sensible about what increases the profile of the sport. Having big nice stadiums are great if they are full. When they are half full it negatively impacts on the image of the sport. Why should that be rewarded?

Would you guys not prefer a full and buzzing Boulevard to a half empty MKM?


appreciate your passion but craven park is not a stadium.
Its an old fashioned 3 sided ground that HKR play their rugby.
Apart from Castleford its the worst ground in S/L.
You can put as much spin on having a mini Hull fair instead of a stand for spectators but to say it looks good on TV is deluded

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 Post subject: Re: IMG score
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 5:56 pm 
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Really??? Why don’t we just hope Hull as a City is a force again in RL like the early 80’s! Fear to come to the City to play either sides.

We don’t need to keep scoring points against each other’s stadium.

Rugby is the winner.

The Derbys and the rugby on the field is where the fun is. The atmosphere, the passion of the two sides is unrivalled.

Well done to both sides for the hard work to achieve the IMG requirements

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 Post subject: Re: IMG score
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:03 pm 
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Easty wrote:Why should having a big stadium that's under utilized and empty ,score more highly then a full and vibrant stadium that attracts fans to the sport, looks great on TV and increases the exposure of the sport.

Many Hull fans see Craven StrEAT as just a few burger vans. It's far from just a few food stands, Contrary to popular belief we only have one burger van, the rest are made up of street vendors serving noodles, Kebab, Sweets, Pizzas, Tacos. Then we have the numerous drink outlets selling Cocktails, Spirits, Real ales.

StrEAT is open well in advance of kick off, makes a brilliant meeting point for fans to come, meet up and enjoy some quality pre match build up, time with friends and family, this all leads to a great atmosphere and overall matchday experience. We have live acts performing and a DJ after the game. Kids love it, We have a section side set aside for players to sign autographs and mingle with the fans. The fact it's also well placed within the stadium bowl increases it's appeal and whole feel of the place.

IMG are here to drive up standards. We all love this sport, we all want it to grow, and build, so lets be sensible about what increases the profile of the sport. Having big nice stadiums are great if they are full. When they are half full it negatively impacts on the image of the sport. Why should that be rewarded?

Would you guys not prefer a full and buzzing Boulevard to a half empty MKM?


While id love our own ground again, fans need to remember that our crowds at the MKM wouldent fit in the Boulevard. The 12k we got for the final game there would give health and safety sleepless nights in todays era. With the size of the site and modern rules even if we had rebuilt the Boulevard I reckon you'd struggle to get a 10k capacity there now.

The MKMs atmosphere was good in the mid 00s when we were consistently good, its the years of disapointment that have caused gloom in the stands not the stadium.

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 Post subject: Re: IMG score
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:07 pm 
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mullo wrote:Really??? Why don’t we just hope Hull as a City is a force again in RL like the early 80’s! Fear to come to the City to play either sides.

We don’t need to keep scoring points against each other’s stadium.

Rugby is the winner.

The Derbys and the rugby on the field is where the fun is. The atmosphere, the passion of the two sides is unrivalled.

Well done to both sides for the hard work to achieve the IMG requirements


I dream of the day when we have a derby that really means something, a CC semi or final (it really is amazing we havent drawn each other in the cup for decades, especially in the new format where SL teams join late)

The only playoff we've had is in 2010 and even then it was 6th v 7th so not exactly grand final hopefuls facing off, while im sure Rovers enjoyed their night they got hammered the week after.

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 Post subject: Re: IMG score
PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:46 pm 
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Salford have shared the link to the 'Handbook' of how the scores are calculated

https://www.rugby-league.com/uploads/do ... pdated.pdf

The social media stuff seems open to abuse to me, like to Hull get to count all the Bangladesh scammers who comment as followers? :)
Salford have shared the link to the 'Handbook' of how the scores are calculated

https://www.rugby-league.com/uploads/do ... pdated.pdf

The social media stuff seems open to abuse to me, like to Hull get to count all the Bangladesh scammers who comment as followers? :)

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