Post subject: Re: IMG Give Seven Clubs Grade A Status
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:40 am
tigertot
International Chairman
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FlexWheeler wrote:Cas fans are incandescent with rage, by all accounts.
Really? Perhaps you could point to it. All the anger I can see is aimed at the club, unless that is what you meant. I do realise it is fashionable for every reaction to be reported OTT these days.
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Post subject: Re: IMG Give Seven Clubs Grade A Status
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:29 pm
Hopie
International Chairman
Joined: Feb 27 2002 Posts: 5442 Location: Aberdeen
I think grading is worse than P+R, and it will continue the sniping and culture of putting down other clubs down, when one of the few unique selling points that Rugby League has (and the one that has made an indent into mainstream culture) is the "sense of community". If this puts off players and fans from some clubs, and many of those left just hates each other even more that's going to be gone too.
We have a history of kicking clubs out of the top division for "other reasons" (dawn of Super league, licensing, geographical expansion, gradings, etc) and it doesn't do the teams dropping down/kicked out any good. Then later when one of the chosen few fails we have to find a gap to fill and those "unfashionable" clubs have been intentionally weakened.
The grading clearly shows there are more than enough clubs who could make a go of it in Super League than there are places, even if they expand it (which they won't, and in my opinion they shouldn't). Therefore it is unfair to block some clubs from entry on anything other than results on the field.
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Post subject: Re: IMG Give Seven Clubs Grade A Status
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:17 pm
UllFC
Club Owner
Joined: Mar 27 2004 Posts: 17284
A problem I can see with this idea is at the end of seasons people are going to get the spreadsheets out rather than concentrate on the action, itll be like 'if Cas win their last game and move up a place and open a new disabled area and Tolouse lose the score will go up 0.15' yawn
Post subject: Re: IMG Give Seven Clubs Grade A Status
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:19 pm
UllFC
Club Owner
Joined: Mar 27 2004 Posts: 17284
RC15 wrote:Well, that's the deck chairs thoroughly rearranged (again)...
And then the SL chairmen will have another meeting in the captains nest and declare more loop games are the answer and steer the boat back towards the iceberg
Post subject: Re: IMG Give Seven Clubs Grade A Status
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:12 am
Mild Rover
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Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12647 Location: Leicestershire.
UllFC wrote:A problem I can see with this idea is at the end of seasons people are going to get the spreadsheets out rather than concentrate on the action, itll be like 'if Cas win their last game and move up a place and open a new disabled area and Tolouse lose the score will go up 0.15' yawn
That is a problem, I agree.
However, the alternatives also have problems - as we have seen!
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Post subject: Re: IMG Give Seven Clubs Grade A Status
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:21 am
sweeney
Player Coach
Joined: Apr 01 2006 Posts: 132 Location: essex
Why not do two divisions, SL is 14 teams - 12 based on the points system and 2 expansion clubs and put London and Toulouse in there and give them 3 seasons exempt from the points structure and invest in them. So you’ve got the league running as normal plus a development drive for the two most likely teams to do something. It clearly worked for Catalans over the years. Add in little marketing points and have Catalans play Toulouse home and away for 2 weeks in a row and call it El Classico, so everyone knows a particular 2 weeks in June or whatever it’s El Classico over there (El Classico is what they call it when Real Madrid play Barcelona) and then the week after have an international friendly France V England over there so you’ve got like a month of Derby’s over there. Have an international tournament like England v Tonga or whoever but play all 3 games in London, play at Arsenal Tottenham and West Ham the whole series and just try and add things to the comp to grow it down south and in France, do something radical and stick with it.
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