FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home Bradford Bulls Odsal lease up for sale



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 204 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 ... 21  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Odsal lease up for sale
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:54 am 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Dec 22 2001
Posts: 31956
Location: The Corridor of Uncertainty
Bullnorthern wrote:The council have the freehold
The RFL have the leasehold
The club and the stock at company are the tenants
So what’s the IMG’s definition of the owner?


Who knows?

But in commercial property it's the norm for the leaseholder to have to maintain the property. The RFL let the stadium deteriorate in the years between 2012 and now. Anyone can see that.

I can't see any potential buyer wanting to pump money into it to improve it. They're more likely to see it as a development site.






"If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them," - Wayne Bennett.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Odsal lease up for sale
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:37 am 
Club Captain
First Team Player

Joined: Apr 06 2016
Posts: 1223
Location: South of Bratfud
My conspiracy goes like

1) CBMDC get the lease back
2) Richard Dunn becomes a victim of a weird kind of fire that destroys concrete and the lands cleared
3) CBMC sell the Odsal plot (that used to include the RD area if I remember right before it was split some years ago
4) CBMDC pledge to build a stadium on the RD plot
5) Were still playing zero G RL at Dewsbury in the year 2099

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Odsal lease up for sale
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:48 am 
Fringe Player
New Signing

Joined: Nov 13 2021
Posts: 63
Bullseye wrote:Who knows?

But in commercial property it's the norm for the leaseholder to have to maintain the property. The RFL let the stadium deteriorate in the years between 2012 and now. Anyone can see that.

I can't see any potential buyer wanting to pump money into it to improve it. They're more likely to see it as a development site.


Indeed. Whilst £750k probably isn’t a huge amount for a property developer, it’s difficult to imagine any of them paying that price and then “protecting professional rugby in Bradford “. It just doesn’t stack up. They will be more interested in filling the hole in and building a retail park, I would imagine.
Tbf it’s time the Odsal nettle was grasped as it can’t be left to decay indefinitely, but where it will leave the Bulls is a cause for concern as things stand.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Odsal lease up for sale
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:57 am 
Player Coach
Junior Player
User avatar

Joined: Sep 21 2006
Posts: 201
Location: Yorkshire Dales
Scarey71 wrote:My conspiracy goes like

1) CBMDC get the lease back
2) Richard Dunn becomes a victim of a weird kind of fire that destroys concrete and the lands cleared
3) CBMC sell the Odsal plot (that used to include the RD area if I remember right before it was split some years ago
4) CBMDC pledge to build a stadium on the RD plot
5) Were still playing zero G RL at Dewsbury in the year 2099


Richard Dunn built using RAAC concrete :shock: perhaps :lol:

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Odsal lease up for sale
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:23 am 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Dec 22 2001
Posts: 31956
Location: The Corridor of Uncertainty
If Dunn's does eventually and mysteriously burn down then I'm afraid I can only see that site being used for housing. I'm not even sure it's big enough for a new stadium.

The Bulls need a nice new out of town stadium a bit like what Warrington got. Absolutely no chance of local authority funding for it in Bradford though. The council are utterly skint.






"If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them," - Wayne Bennett.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Odsal lease up for sale
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:05 am 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Jan 02 2002
Posts: 8103
Location: LS9
We need to think outside the box. There's an athletics stadium opposite the shay. We could develop that and rebrand as Calderdale Bulls. The area is crying out for a competitive RL club to support. I'm no expert but I've designed something really quite special I reckon.

Image
We need to think outside the box. There's an athletics stadium opposite the shay. We could develop that and rebrand as Calderdale Bulls. The area is crying out for a competitive RL club to support. I'm no expert but I've designed something really quite special I reckon.

Image






//www.twitter.com/pumpetypump

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Odsal lease up for sale
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:37 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Dec 22 2001
Posts: 31956
Location: The Corridor of Uncertainty
I'm liking the goal posts being on the main road. That will make things really interesting for drivers.






"If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them," - Wayne Bennett.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Odsal lease up for sale
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:25 am 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Jan 02 2002
Posts: 8103
Location: LS9
Bullseye wrote:I'm liking the goal posts being on the main road. That will make things really interesting for drivers.


I was watching the grand final and thinking those narrow in-goal areas are nice but we can go even further. Why not have the in-goal areas as carpark.






//www.twitter.com/pumpetypump

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Odsal lease up for sale
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:09 pm 
Player Coach
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Dec 21 2007
Posts: 7107
Pumpetypump wrote:We need to think outside the box. There's an athletics stadium opposite the shay. We could develop that and rebrand as Calderdale Bulls. The area is crying out for a competitive RL club to support. I'm no expert but I've designed something really quite special I reckon.

Image


I like the name of the ground. Another calderdaler that played well for Bradford you could consider is Karl Fairbank. You hear that surname and you immediate think of Bradford Norther/Bulls.

It would be good for kids playing the game round there to have a big local club to look up to.
Pumpetypump wrote:We need to think outside the box. There's an athletics stadium opposite the shay. We could develop that and rebrand as Calderdale Bulls. The area is crying out for a competitive RL club to support. I'm no expert but I've designed something really quite special I reckon.

Image


I like the name of the ground. Another calderdaler that played well for Bradford you could consider is Karl Fairbank. You hear that surname and you immediate think of Bradford Norther/Bulls.

It would be good for kids playing the game round there to have a big local club to look up to.






nosorożce biorą to w dupę

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Odsal lease up for sale
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:23 pm 
Player Coach
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Dec 21 2007
Posts: 7107
All joking aside I don't think there is a lot needed to make Odsal a more pleasant experience as a summer sports ground but the pitch and that dirt track stop it from being acceptable IMO.

If you had the concrete on the away end removed. You could grass tier that end (witht he slope shallowedout down to the dead ball line. Like at Australian grounds/cricket grounds and open it as a family stand/picnic area when the weather's good. New crash barriers and cleaned concrete on the pop side.

Replace the portakabins with brick built sheds, same with the bar on the corner (or replace the rotten wood). Plant some flowers on the grass bankings behind the concourse.

But the pitch and the dirt track are an eye sore.






nosorożce biorą to w dupę

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 204 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 ... 21  Next





It is currently Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:14 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bull Mania, Bullseye, Peter Goddard, prembull and 145 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:14 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
2025 merchandise
FIL
14
12m
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
5584
22m
Ground Improvements
vastman
160
45m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40745
45m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63238
46m
Film game
Boss Hog
5670
47m
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
27
Recent
2025 Shirt
Choc Ice
19
Recent
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
Recent
Salford
Uncle Rico
20
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Ground Improvements
vastman
160
1m
Red Devils sign International forward
Huddersfield
3
1m
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
1m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
1m
2025 Shirt
Choc Ice
19
1m
Its all gone a bit quiet
orangeman
22
1m
Dual Reg
financialtim
10
2m
Planning for next season
Jack Gaskell
180
3m
War of the Roses
sally cinnam
35
3m
Other Championship Clubs
FIL
418
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
27
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
Uncle Rico
20
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
49
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Big lads mat
22
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
926
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
578
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1308
England's Women Demolish The W..
1141
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1373
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1168
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1423
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1969
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2174
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2416
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1986
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2223
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2690
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2118
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2187
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington - Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
2025 merchandise
FIL
14
12m
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
5584
22m
Ground Improvements
vastman
160
45m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40745
45m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63238
46m
Film game
Boss Hog
5670
47m
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
27
Recent
2025 Shirt
Choc Ice
19
Recent
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
Recent
Salford
Uncle Rico
20
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Ground Improvements
vastman
160
1m
Red Devils sign International forward
Huddersfield
3
1m
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
1m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
1m
2025 Shirt
Choc Ice
19
1m
Its all gone a bit quiet
orangeman
22
1m
Dual Reg
financialtim
10
2m
Planning for next season
Jack Gaskell
180
3m
War of the Roses
sally cinnam
35
3m
Other Championship Clubs
FIL
418
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
27
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
Uncle Rico
20
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
49
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Big lads mat
22
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
926
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
578
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1308
England's Women Demolish The W..
1141
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1373
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1168
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1423
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1969
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2174
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2416
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1986
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2223
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2690
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2118
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2187


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.