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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:12 pm 
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https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... x-27906916

if wakefield are no longer in SL then the SL get out clause does not stand does it so is a fee due what are chances of Wakey paying this.
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... x-27906916

if wakefield are no longer in SL then the SL get out clause does not stand does it so is a fee due what are chances of Wakey paying this.

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 Post subject: Re: Walmsley
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:30 pm 
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Wakefield have a millionaire owner so if they want him make them pay a decent fee for a 30 try a season winger. If they won't come up with the goods, stuff 'em! Unfortunately due to that statement i can't see Walmsley playing for Fax again. He says he loves Halifax, but not enough apparently, to honour his contract. There will be other clubs in for him i'm sure but it's a sad indictment of where we are when a club like Wakefield can outbid us.






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 Post subject: Re: Walmsley
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:38 pm 
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I wouldn't sell him to anyone in the championship. He can either see out his contract and then go were he wants or find a super league club who are happy to do a deal for him.

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 Post subject: Re: Walmsley
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:19 pm 
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That’s the same link that was posted in the other thread and changes nothing.

Wakefield aren’t a Super League club so they can’t trigger any release clause.

Fax aren’t bidding against Wakefield to sign him he’s already a Fax player who has 12 months left on his contract and well done to them for getting that in place, but there aren’t many clubs in the Championship who have a millionaire backer who’s new on the scene ready to spend who could compete with them and is just a true reflection of the financial status of the majority of clubs below Super League rather than some slur against Fax.

The club know better than anybody what he’s capable of and all the pro’s and cons and implications on and off the field of whether he stays or goes but if he does any club who he goes to will have to pay.

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 Post subject: Re: Walmsley
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:44 am 
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As it stands because Wakefield are classed as a SL team until the SL contracts expire for the season they would have to pay the fee that is in his contract and as Fax have allowed him to speak to Wakefield it looks like we are quite willing to let him go. The issue looks to be that Wakefield are purposfully waiting until they are not classed as a SL team to avoid paying this fee in the hope that they can unsettle him and Fax will eventually let him leave for pennies(or at least a lot less than the fee in the contract). Fax now have to hope that there is interest from another SL team(by all accounts there isn't more than likely down to this fixed fee) otherwise things could get messy.

I can see this one going to a tribunal where the likely outcome would be a ruling in favor of Wakefield as they are able to offer him full time employment and better facilities. Either way Fax are looking likely to get screwed over.







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 Post subject: Re: Walmsley
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:34 am 
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It must be a SL team who triggers the release clause as per the signed contract.
If Wakefield are judged to be a Super League team when they have made their approach which officially must be through the club then they must pay the sum specified in the contract.

They can’t have it both ways and say they are SL so can trigger the release but then they aren’t SL so don’t have to pay the fee it’s is all part of Walmsley’s contact, without the fee there is no release.

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 Post subject: Re: Walmsley
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:28 am 
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My take on this, is that Wakey have failed to sign Walmsley whilst they were SL so now that status has passed, the SL clause is no longer applicable, irrespective as to whether they "started" talks or not - surely that's irrelevant, it's not written down in black and white!

But if Walmsley doesn't want to stay then just let him go to Wakey, as long as they pay through the nose to sign him. We don't want players who don't want to be here, no matter how good they are.






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 Post subject: Re: Walmsley
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:51 am 
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Yes this has been previously mentioned in the other Walmsley thread, there is the legal side regarding the contract ( which as per usual with the RFL isn’t clear ) and the personal side regarding the player involved to take into consideration.

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 Post subject: Re: Walmsley
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:09 am 
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If he is offered more money he will move to another club regardless of whether it is championship or SL. It’s his job and we all want to be paid more.

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 Post subject: Re: Walmsley
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:14 am 
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Faxlore wrote:If he is offered more money he will move to another club regardless of whether it is championship or SL. It’s his job and we all want to be paid more.

His contract runs for another 12 months.






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