I agree. I'm just fed up of people think Goudemand is a second row.

MG is 5’ 10” and 15st 6lbs, he’s not going to make a dent in most of the other forwards at the top clubs. If he’s the 5th Prop we’re going round in circles in lower mid table. We need a big hitter prop, someone who’s going to bend the line and whack in defence, not another “middle”.

You are right and so is Arthur

To give a bit of perspective, MG is the same height as Kylie Leuluai, but a stone and a half lighter.

And MG is not made out of concrete

Perhaps we should sign Ben Grimm?

Would you give up an quota spot we could use on a half or a centre to get one? English options in the NRL are Thompson ( a big risk injury wise and seemingly heading elsewhere), Sutton (by no means a big bopper) and Burgess who has occasionally flirted with the notion, but is probably more likely to head to Wire given the choice.

Ryan Sutton is 6’ 2” and 16st 7lbs. He’s not small.

Yep, but I imagine he's no heavier than Oledzki, Holroyd, Sangare and Lisone, so probably not the kind of line bending prop people hanker for. He'd also be a fair bit more expensive than any of the above. Not saying he's not a good player, and wouldn't make a difference, but if he were to come I doubt there would be a big rush on season tickets.

I believe that once you’re a certain size (or bigger) then the bending the line bit is more about what’s between your ears than anything else. 5’ 10” is tall enough and 16st 7lbs is heavy enough, if you run like you’re going to go through a brick wall.