FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home Wakefield Trinity cas redevelpment goes to plan B



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 230 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 ... 23  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 6:29 pm 
Player Coach
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Jan 24 2007
Posts: 6297
Location: Over there
PopTart wrote:Made me feel good about our position.
I can't see them being above us in the IMG score without a lot of investment pretty quickly.


Been to a grand final though. That will count for something






EVENTUALLY, WE'LL WIN SOMETHING, ,MAYBE, IF I'M STILL ALIVE THEN

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 6:49 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Oct 04 2008
Posts: 21007
Location: wakefield
Slugger McBatt wrote:Been to a grand final though. That will count for something


You only get points for winning and it was too long ago anyway.






A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 6:51 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Oct 04 2008
Posts: 21007
Location: wakefield
Saints have all the GF points sewn up from the top flight.






A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:46 pm 
International Star
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Feb 23 2014
Posts: 5258
All clubs have a season to put together their plans including Castleford to gain enough points to get into or stay in SL. We like every other club know what is required therefore whatever the outcome is down entirely to whoever is running the club.
We have to accept that we were the worst team and deserve to be relegated and nothing going to change this. They will not be a 14 team SL next season and Castleford will not be demoted.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:48 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Oct 04 2008
Posts: 21007
Location: wakefield
They need to get a move on.
At the moment, on a brief look through, they are looking at 9.5 points.
They lose out big time in finance and stadium.
They need to hit that minimum criteria in "Plan B" as they leave some serious points on the table with that.






A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 9:17 am 
First Team Player
Academy Player
User avatar

Joined: Aug 23 2020
Posts: 260
dboy wrote:From the WMDC Planning Portal - submission from Eastwood's on behalf of the developer.:

"In order to raise finished floor levels above the maximum flood level should defences fail, approximately 1.5 m of raising would be required. This would result in the development failing to meet accessibility criteria and lead to an increase in flood risk elsewhere.

In addition, raising of finished floor levels would require the creation of new compensatory voids to accommodate the displaced volume of flooding. If this were to be included on the site it would result in the significant de-scoping of the major upgrades provided (such as removal of the training pitch, loss of car parking and removal of the fan zone) thereby undermining the principle of the proposals to provide upgraded stadium and training facilities. Having the fans seated at a higher level would undermine the intimate atmosphere of the historic stadium, one of the features it is famous and valued for.

Raising finished floor levels would also raise construction costs which have been carefully assessed to provide the maximum benefits and to meet the Superleague stadium criteria. Any increase in construction costs would mean that the other upgrades to the facilities would need to be descoped resulting in Wheldon Road failing to meet the required stadium standards. Raising of finished floor levels is therefore deemed unviable."

So are the.other documents submitted on the 14th in relation to the axiom development or the cas development?

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 9:30 am 
International Star
Club Captain

Joined: Jun 19 2012
Posts: 2630
Why not let CAS play on the Wakefield ground Just getting peeved of with the so called people in charge ( We all know they are so far up the so called big clubs backside) most play at a football ground even Magic Weekend is at a football ground .Just want nice grounds to show a false picture of the state of S L when on TV ,and they are going out of there way to make it easier for the big clubs to keep winning things ,and destroying the heart of the R L M62 corridors .Clubs should not lose S L because they have no big backed

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:01 am 
Club Captain
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: Jan 10 2019
Posts: 2772
Location: Horbury, a small town in Wakefield
dboy wrote:From the WMDC Planning Portal - submission from Eastwood's on behalf of the developer.:

"In order to raise finished floor levels above the maximum flood level should defences fail, approximately 1.5 m of raising would be required. This would result in the development failing to meet accessibility criteria and lead to an increase in flood risk elsewhere.

In addition, raising of finished floor levels would require the creation of new compensatory voids to accommodate the displaced volume of flooding. If this were to be included on the site it would result in the significant de-scoping of the major upgrades provided (such as removal of the training pitch, loss of car parking and removal of the fan zone) thereby undermining the principle of the proposals to provide upgraded stadium and training facilities. Having the fans seated at a higher level would undermine the intimate atmosphere of the historic stadium, one of the features it is famous and valued for.

Raising finished floor levels would also raise construction costs which have been carefully assessed to provide the maximum benefits and to meet the Superleague stadium criteria. Any increase in construction costs would mean that the other upgrades to the facilities would need to be descoped resulting in Wheldon Road failing to meet the required stadium standards. Raising of finished floor levels is therefore deemed unviable."


Did you see this on the last page of that report?
My guess is that, the redevelopment will go ahead.

Summary
The proposed site has been shown to be capable of adequately accommodating all the floodplain storage provided in its current arrangement. This has been achieved by minor adjustments to the proposed 4g pitch

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:03 am 
Club Captain
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: Oct 20 2015
Posts: 3682
Hard right now to judge what our squad will look like next year.

Provided the takeover does go ahead, Ellis may have different ideas to coaching staff and players that our current mindset is at.

Also, I would think teams will be ahead of us in terms of recruitment for next year

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: cas redevelpment goes to plan B
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:31 am 
Club Coach
Club Captain

Joined: Oct 27 2004
Posts: 3728
Dunkirk Spirit wrote:Did you see this on the last page of that report?
My guess is that, the redevelopment will go ahead.

Summary
The proposed site has been shown to be capable of adequately accommodating all the floodplain storage provided in its current arrangement. This has been achieved by minor adjustments to the proposed 4g pitch

What was discussed in the face to face meeting they had will be key. If as i expect the EA now remove their objection and replace it with recommendations then i’d expect it to get waved through.

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 230 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 ... 23  Next





It is currently Fri Nov 15, 2024 11:39 am


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: 18th Man, Droopy, High chaperal, JINJER, Khlav Kalash, Trojan Horse, wotsupcas and 107 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Fri Nov 15, 2024 11:39 am
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
7m
Paladin Sports
The Curtism
13
13m
Film game
Boss Hog
5331
16m
Recruitment rumours and links
Moe syslak
3543
19m
removing posts
Trojan Horse
9
25m
Squad 2025
Tony Fax
32
27m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Jake the Peg
3906
55m
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Phuzzy
30
57m
2025 Shirt
Rogues Galle
16
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40595
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63084
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
23s
Season pass roll call
Rugby Raider
30
26s
RIP Keith Hepworth 1942-2024
Jake the Peg
4
1m
Squad 2025
Tony Fax
32
1m
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
28880
1m
Out of contract 2025
Alffi_7
9
2m
A Year to Remember
Wigg'n
3
2m
IMG Score
Scarey71
73
2m
I dont think this is a good signing for the Leopards
Leyther in n
8
2m
2025 Shirt
Rogues Galle
16
2m
Paladin Sports
The Curtism
13
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
RIP Keith Hepworth 1942-2024
Jake the Peg
4
TODAY
9000 season ticket holders announced
Bombers Doub
1
TODAY
Merry Christmas
The Curtism
6
TODAY
I dont think this is a good signing for the Leopards
Leyther in n
8
TODAY
Red Devils sign International forward
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Hospitality packages including new refurbished Foxs Bar
AgbriggAmble
10
TODAY
Offiah on Salary Cap
Shifty Cat
11
TODAY
removing posts
Trojan Horse
9
TODAY
Season pass roll call
Rugby Raider
30
TODAY
Positivity Pact
Sebasteeno
3
TODAY
Jack Coventry
Wanderer
1
TODAY
A Year to Remember
Wigg'n
3
TODAY
2025 Annual
JamieRobinso
1
TODAY
2025 KIT Thread
Sadfish
1
TODAY
NRL Kick Off Rules
stpatricks
7
TODAY
Garry Schofield
PopTart
6
TODAY
Out of contract 2025
Alffi_7
9
TODAY
Gary Schofield
hull2524
10
TODAY
Joe Phillips
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Andy Ellis
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Manoa Wacokecoke
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jeylan Hodgson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Mackenzie Harman
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Ben Dent
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Callum Rutland
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Harry Aldous
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jack Aldous
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Garry Schofield
rubber ducki
14
TODAY
Lennon Bursell
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Brett Ferres
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
963
England's Women Demolish The W..
802
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1055
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
859
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1125
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1650
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1906
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2156
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1730
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1971
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2436
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1876
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1963
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
2149
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2282
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
7m
Paladin Sports
The Curtism
13
13m
Film game
Boss Hog
5331
16m
Recruitment rumours and links
Moe syslak
3543
19m
removing posts
Trojan Horse
9
25m
Squad 2025
Tony Fax
32
27m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Jake the Peg
3906
55m
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Phuzzy
30
57m
2025 Shirt
Rogues Galle
16
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40595
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63084
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
23s
Season pass roll call
Rugby Raider
30
26s
RIP Keith Hepworth 1942-2024
Jake the Peg
4
1m
Squad 2025
Tony Fax
32
1m
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
28880
1m
Out of contract 2025
Alffi_7
9
2m
A Year to Remember
Wigg'n
3
2m
IMG Score
Scarey71
73
2m
I dont think this is a good signing for the Leopards
Leyther in n
8
2m
2025 Shirt
Rogues Galle
16
2m
Paladin Sports
The Curtism
13
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
RIP Keith Hepworth 1942-2024
Jake the Peg
4
TODAY
9000 season ticket holders announced
Bombers Doub
1
TODAY
Merry Christmas
The Curtism
6
TODAY
I dont think this is a good signing for the Leopards
Leyther in n
8
TODAY
Red Devils sign International forward
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Hospitality packages including new refurbished Foxs Bar
AgbriggAmble
10
TODAY
Offiah on Salary Cap
Shifty Cat
11
TODAY
removing posts
Trojan Horse
9
TODAY
Season pass roll call
Rugby Raider
30
TODAY
Positivity Pact
Sebasteeno
3
TODAY
Jack Coventry
Wanderer
1
TODAY
A Year to Remember
Wigg'n
3
TODAY
2025 Annual
JamieRobinso
1
TODAY
2025 KIT Thread
Sadfish
1
TODAY
NRL Kick Off Rules
stpatricks
7
TODAY
Garry Schofield
PopTart
6
TODAY
Out of contract 2025
Alffi_7
9
TODAY
Gary Schofield
hull2524
10
TODAY
Joe Phillips
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Andy Ellis
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Manoa Wacokecoke
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jeylan Hodgson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Mackenzie Harman
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Ben Dent
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Callum Rutland
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Harry Aldous
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jack Aldous
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Garry Schofield
rubber ducki
14
TODAY
Lennon Bursell
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Brett Ferres
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
963
England's Women Demolish The W..
802
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1055
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
859
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1125
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1650
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1906
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2156
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1730
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1971
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2436
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1876
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1963
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
2149
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2282


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.