Post subject: Re: Is it time for Hetherington to go ?
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 11:17 pm
Once were Loiners
First Team Player
Joined: Dec 15 2021 Posts: 1252
This year has been a huge letdown despite many - including me - having pretty low expectations, just hoping not to be involved in a relegation fight and seeing some exciting games. The vibe on here is worse than I can remember, and faith that GH has some kind of plan has seemingly evaporated.
GH isn't going anywhere. He'll fry Smith if he has to, and regardless of signings and agreements about how he was brought in to 'fix' the club for the long term, Smith will be under all sorts of pressure at the start of next season. The biggest worry right now for GH will be season ticket sales. We saw an uplift in crowds this year as a result of the back end of last season. Next year will see the reverse unless we have some signings to excite interest.
What I would say in Smith's defence is that he will have overseen an enormous change in personnel in a season and a half. A lot of senior players have gone or will go, and that was always going to cause ructions. The clearout couldn't have happened any faster due to contracts and the cap. So I can understand 'team spirit' issues. If we make the right signings I wouldn't be surprised to see far better performances next year.
The most worrying thing for me are the walkouts. I can't remember anything like it. In 1996 players exited because there was no money to pay them - this year they just seem to have wanted out. Maybe its just been part of the clearout we've needed for so long, but it suggests a team in utter turmoil. Perhaps the most surprising thing is that until the last two games we've actually been competitive?
Post subject: Re: Is it time for Hetherington to go ?
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:53 am
Zoo Zoo Boom
First Team Player
Joined: Dec 11 2020 Posts: 1100
The club spends to the cap - it might not have elite players but it spend >£2m on the squad. How that is possible given what we see on the pitch defies all logic. Anyone who thinks Leeds don't spend the cap is delusional
Once were Loiners wrote:This year has been a huge letdown despite many - including me - having pretty low expectations, just hoping not to be involved in a relegation fight and seeing some exciting games. The vibe on here is worse than I can remember, and faith that GH has some kind of plan has seemingly evaporated.
GH isn't going anywhere. He'll fry Smith if he has to, and regardless of signings and agreements about how he was brought in to 'fix' the club for the long term, Smith will be under all sorts of pressure at the start of next season. The biggest worry right now for GH will be season ticket sales. We saw an uplift in crowds this year as a result of the back end of last season. Next year will see the reverse unless we have some signings to excite interest.
What I would say in Smith's defence is that he will have overseen an enormous change in personnel in a season and a half. A lot of senior players have gone or will go, and that was always going to cause ructions. The clearout couldn't have happened any faster due to contracts and the cap. So I can understand 'team spirit' issues. If we make the right signings I wouldn't be surprised to see far better performances next year.
The most worrying thing for me are the walkouts. I can't remember anything like it. In 1996 players exited because there was no money to pay them - this year they just seem to have wanted out. Maybe its just been part of the clearout we've needed for so long, but it suggests a team in utter turmoil. Perhaps the most surprising thing is that until the last two games we've actually been competitive?
We also let Hardaker go. When we signed him short-term we went on the run that got us to the GF.
Post subject: Re: Is it time for Hetherington to go ?
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:26 am
MjM
International Chairman
Joined: Dec 22 2001 Posts: 6835 Location: The Motorway City of the 1970s
Homer Simpson wrote:We have no money to rebuild to squad as we are mortgaged to the hilt for 40 years with 2 new stands, and season ticket sales will dwindle now too
You just repeating the same rubbish doesn't make it true.
Let all the doubters keep doubting and those who believe keep believing.
We’re only interested in those in the bubble. Anyone who wants to come in the bubble, you can come in.
Post subject: Re: Is it time for Hetherington to go ?
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:19 am
Once were Loiners
First Team Player
Joined: Dec 15 2021 Posts: 1252
GH says we spend to the cap every year. Despite the dreadful underperformance I believe him on that. It just shows how badly its all been managed, and GH has to be responsible for that side of things ahead of any coach.
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