FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home Hull FC Leeds Rhinos - Home



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 157 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 ... 16  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Leeds Rhinos - Home
PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:09 pm 
International Star
International Star

Joined: Apr 04 2014
Posts: 7789
Chris71 wrote:Would agree with Lane over Lovodua, as Lane (despite no real form) is still the better option out the two. In an ideal world I'd like to see Staveley start with Jebson on the bench. Disappointing to again not see Balmforth being brought in if he is in the plans for next season.

Certainly a winnerable game, though in fairness its anybodys game looking at both clubs 21 squads.


These last games would have been an ideal time to play Balmforth off the bench with Houghton.
Something seems wrong here and i cant see the point of extending his contract if its likely Smith doesnt rate him.
An extra three or four games with Newcastle wont make him a better player yet the remaining games we have would have given Smith a much better idea of Balmforths potential for next season.
By playing Both Dwyer and Lovodua who are leaving i can only assume Smith still sees a possibility of a top six finish which in reality is non existent

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Leeds Rhinos - Home
PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:29 pm 
International Star
International Star

Joined: Apr 04 2014
Posts: 7789
weaver93 wrote:I agree to a certain extent....
But in the last few years, there has been no effort and no guts..
At least with effort and guts, you have a chance of winning.
Regarding Pearson, he didn't replace Motu Tony, relied on cheaper internal appointment alongside unproven Manager's such as Gentle, Radford and Hodgson
Had he spent less on players, and more on experienced staff
Who knows, where we would be now??


Gentle was maybe unproven but had the rug pulled from under him and i believe would have been a very good manager for us had Pearson afforded him time like he did with Radford
In my opinion another knee jerk Pearson error based on the play off heavy defeat at Huddersfield yet he took the club to Wembley and we did actually get to the play offs with Gentle.
He also had to contend with having fourteen players out injured at one stage and it was probably this that cost him his job.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Leeds Rhinos - Home
PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 4:54 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Jan 30 2004
Posts: 8185
Location: Never never land away with the fairies
bonaire wrote:
weaver93 wrote:I agree to a certain extent....
But in the last few years, there has been no effort and no guts..
At least with effort and guts, you have a chance of winning.
Regarding Pearson, he didn't replace Motu Tony, relied on cheaper internal appointment alongside unproven Manager's such as Gentle, Radford and Hodgson
Had he spent less on players, and more on experienced staff
Who knows, where we would be now??


Gentle was maybe unproven but had the rug pulled from under him and i believe would have been a very good manager for us had Pearson afforded him time like he did with Radford
In my opinion another knee jerk Pearson error based on the play off heavy defeat at Huddersfield yet he took the club to Wembley and we did actually get to the play offs with Gentle.
He also had to contend with having fourteen players out injured at one stage and it was probably this that cost him his job.


For me Gentle will always go down as coulda,woulda. Think he was shafted and undermined by Radford and certainly not helped by McRae either.
Agree with Bonaire in that Pearson didn’t give him enough time.






I really enjoy long walks especially when they are taken by people I don't like!

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Leeds Rhinos - Home
PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 8:11 pm 
Player Coach
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Dec 07 2005
Posts: 7402
Chris71 wrote:For me Gentle will always go down as coulda,woulda. Think he was shafted and undermined by Radford and certainly not helped by McRae either.
Agree with Bonaire in that Pearson didn’t give him enough time.


Spot on Chris I still keep in touch with the Gentles, they are a great rugby family and Peter was a blooming good coach both tactically and culturally, but his hands were tied and he did find it tough going with the difference between the application and attitude of our players compared with what he left down under. In fact several of them were disruptive to say the least. In the end its was not just Radford, but several of his pals as well who in the end did the deed. Before a Derby and predominantly for our import players he actually got me in to tell the players just what it was like to spend a week in the City as an FC fan following a Derby defeat, (not trying to be clever here just stating a fact) and I was quite surprised what I found. You say undermined Chris and you're spot on, anyone who was at Huddersfield on that bleak night in the play offs will know exactly what we mean. I'd hazard a guess that Adam was influenced by several of the players one of whom ended up as our new coach.






2016 The Year of the Airlie Bird -on sale NOW, price £15, BUY THE BOOK RE-LIVE THE DREAM!

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Leeds Rhinos - Home
PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 8:56 pm 
Player Coach
First Team Player
User avatar

Joined: Sep 04 2005
Posts: 1115
Location: In the land of wishful thinking once more. Patiently waiting for our time to finally arrive.
bonaire wrote:In my opinion another knee jerk Pearson error based on the play off heavy defeat at Huddersfield yet he took the club to Wembley and we did actually get to the play offs with Gentle.


I'm not wholly sure that was the reason. My understanding is that Pearson had already made the decision earlier in the season, possibly as early as June, certainly no later than July. Indeed rumours to this effect began circulating through the media in the week leading up to the Warrington semi-final (last week July?).
As these rumours had their origin in the Daily Star!! everyone dismissed them as blown-up gossip dressed up as a scoop! Turns out they were a good deal closer to the mark than any of us surmised.

Before Wembley that year, a family member of mine, who is a personal friend of Pearson, told me that he would be on his way come season close. I reckon this explains Gentles somewhat muted reaction, especially in the first half, during the Huddersfield game as the one-way traffic flowed incessantly and the points tally mounted at an alarming rate! He knew it was all irrelevant in regard to his future at the club as he already knew he was flying home before the month was out.

Why Pearson had made this decision half-way through his contract, only he knows, and he's never fully explained the reasoning behind it. Maybe he simply didn't like the way Gentle made a brew after training, who knows!!

What on earth Pearson would have done if we had beaten Wigan at Wembley (in the pouring rain) and maybe backed that up by reaching OT (a long shot admittedly) heaven only knows, it would have taken a bit of story telling to explain the decision in that outcome. In a way, the Huddersfield defeat gave Pearson an out to justify a decision he had already made his mind up about.

Almost certainly, a degree of player-power was responsible for Gentles demise, but the myth that it all centred around that one game, a myth which took hold almost immediately following the defeat, doesn't tally with what I heard at the time.

We'll never know in what direction he would have taken us had he been given the time to build on the work he put in during 2012/13 but I'm afraid that is how it goes in modern-day sport, everything these days is about the here and now, win and you are safe (for another week at least), lose and you are on rocky ground. It's the way the world turns!






I've been on the internet and have already got a sense of the fans' passion for the club. They are very fanatical - Peter Gentle 12th September 2011.

Money doesn't talk it swears, Obscenity who really cares, Propaganda all is phony.

I'm the son and heir of a shyness which is criminally vulgar.

Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way.

A man who lives in hell can still aspire to heaven.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Leeds Rhinos - Home
PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:29 am 
International Star
First Team Player

Joined: Nov 20 2011
Posts: 1183
Location: Australia
Fearless prediction! Hull will win this pretty comfortably.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Leeds Rhinos - Home
PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 5:45 am 
Player Coach
International Star

Joined: Nov 19 2008
Posts: 5374
Had a listen to about half of TS press conference last night, had to give up as Gollum was doing the interview......

Anyway, going off what Smith said I don't think Hoy will play. He said something along the lines of, if he does play it wouldn't be for the full match.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Leeds Rhinos - Home
PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 4:31 pm 
International Board Member
International Star

Joined: Aug 02 2002
Posts: 7299
Location: Wakefield but near to Leeds!
Freddie Miller. wrote:Fearless prediction! Hull will win this pretty comfortably.

As a Leeds fan I would agree with you.
Stand in FB, no half backs and an inexperienced hooker and props who have no fight.
But we are in a rebuilding season and next year makes it 9 years now so we must be almost there in 2024.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Leeds Rhinos - Home
PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 5:31 pm 
Club Owner
Club Owner
User avatar

Joined: Sep 25 2003
Posts: 22196
chapylad wrote:As a Leeds fan I would agree with you.
Stand in FB, no half backs and an inexperienced hooker and props who have no fight.
But we are in a rebuilding season and next year makes it 9 years now so we must be almost there in 2024.


Imagine if you'd been rebuilding since the mid eighties.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Leeds Rhinos - Home
PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 5:41 pm 
Player Coach
International Star

Joined: Nov 19 2008
Posts: 5374
No Nene Mcdonald for Leeds either

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 157 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 ... 16  Next





It is currently Fri Nov 29, 2024 3:05 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Armavinit, fcaces, Hasbag, Irregs#16, Marcus's Bicycle, mean_machine, mwindass, Roam Ranger, west hull rufus and 161 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Fri Nov 29, 2024 3:05 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
23m
Season pass roll call
Armavinit
38
24m
2025 Season tickets
BarnsleyGull
223
29m
Film game
Boss Hog
5840
30m
2025 Kit
Bullseye
15
Recent
Castleford sack Lingard
FIL
17
Recent
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
112
Recent
Mike Cooper podcast
Wires71
10
Recent
2025 Shirt
Akinwale Aro
26
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63297
Recent
Shirt reveal coming soon
vastman
48
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Father Ted
18
1m
Film game
Boss Hog
5840
2m
Co-Captains for 2025
MjM
15
2m
Fixtures
northernblok
17
3m
Shirt reveal coming soon
vastman
48
3m
Mike Cooper podcast
Wires71
10
3m
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
3m
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
112
3m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40832
4m
How many games will we win
18th Man
52
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
MjM
15
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
Wires71
10
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
vastman
48
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
23m
Season pass roll call
Armavinit
38
24m
2025 Season tickets
BarnsleyGull
223
29m
Film game
Boss Hog
5840
30m
2025 Kit
Bullseye
15
Recent
Castleford sack Lingard
FIL
17
Recent
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
112
Recent
Mike Cooper podcast
Wires71
10
Recent
2025 Shirt
Akinwale Aro
26
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63297
Recent
Shirt reveal coming soon
vastman
48
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Father Ted
18
1m
Film game
Boss Hog
5840
2m
Co-Captains for 2025
MjM
15
2m
Fixtures
northernblok
17
3m
Shirt reveal coming soon
vastman
48
3m
Mike Cooper podcast
Wires71
10
3m
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
3m
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
112
3m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40832
4m
How many games will we win
18th Man
52
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
MjM
15
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
Wires71
10
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
vastman
48
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.