Listenup94 wrote:Just out of interest as anyone got any constructive alternatives to DR ?
Yes the system we always had,loans of a minimum period of one month.We have never been in a position where we couldn’t raise a 17 and the DR we’ve used this season has been a complete waste of time.The only counter argument could be Sutcliffe who had one game and that lead to a longer stay.No reason why this couldn’t have been an initial loan.
Beaujangles wrote:Yes the system we always had,loans of a minimum period of one month.We have never been in a position where we couldn’t raise a 17 and the DR we’ve used this season has been a complete waste of time.The only counter argument could be Sutcliffe who had one game and that lead to a longer stay.No reason why this couldn’t have been an initial loan.
That’s the way to go, tried and tested and if the parent club won’t commit to a month then he won’t be available and we won’t have the choice anyway. Main stumbling block is the game as a whole would have to agree to it for your proposal to happen otherwise the parent club would just DR with someone else.
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Beaujangles wrote:Yes the system we always had,loans of a minimum period of one month.We have never been in a position where we couldn’t raise a 17 and the DR we’ve used this season has been a complete waste of time.The only counter argument could be Sutcliffe who had one game and that lead to a longer stay.No reason why this couldn’t have been an initial loan.
Aye, that's almost spot on and is what i've said more than once on here. The only point I would pick out would be where you say 'this' season. I would argue it has been a total waste of time with each different club we've had an embarrasing 'partnership' with. Also, again repeating myself, it's not just the detrimental effect it has on Fax, it's the game as a whole which is being used and abused by SL clubs. Their boot is well and truly on our necks and until we wrestle it off the status quo will well and truly remain.
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Hudd-Shay wrote:Do you still have the same thoughts GFB?
Yeah nothing changed on my view there, well apart from faxcar telling everyone I think Grix is an awful coach. I think our link with Cas has been used with respect but the problem is that we are bottom feeding, Cas are awful and have had a bad time with injuries, we have been awful as well for the most part and I bet Grix would have liked to bring some quality in from Cas but the simple fact is that they don't have it.
Before faxcar tries to twist anything else that I have said don't be mistaken that in saying that I think its a good system because I don't, I hate it, but the reality is that it is there and is not going away anytime soon while the money coming in to the game gets less and less. The only good thing about it from our point of view is that it has given us a bit of a try before you buy opportunity. How many players do we have in the team who have played for us on DR who are now either permanent already or will be by the end of the season?
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Greg Florimos Boots wrote:Yeah nothing changed on my view there, well apart from faxcar telling everyone I think Grix is an awful coach. :wink: I think our link with Cas has been used with respect but the problem is that we are bottom feeding, Cas are awful and have had a bad time with injuries, we have been awful as well for the most part and I bet Grix would have liked to bring some quality in from Cas but the simple fact is that they don't have it.
Before faxcar tries to twist anything else that I have said don't be mistaken that in saying that I think its a good system because I don't, I hate it, but the reality is that it is there and is not going away anytime soon while the money coming in to the game gets less and less. The only good thing about it from our point of view is that it has given us a bit of a try before you buy opportunity. How many players do we have in the team who have played for us on DR who are now either permanent already or will be by the end of the season?
But that can be done with the old loan system as has been said and as such it would prevent any possibility of players being pulled just before a game. Again it is all for the gain of the SL club. Anyroad, time to get ready for today. In my view this is the biggest game of the season....so far. Up The Fax!
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[Part quotes="Greg Florimos Boots"]Yeah nothing changed on my view there, well apart from faxcar telling everyone I think Grix is an awful coach. "Before faxcar tries to twist anything else that I have said........."
You mean something like this from you about Grix being an awful coach. Quote: "Funny thing is I think any coach in any of the top 3 divisions could have coached us in to 6th place this season with the squad we have.....the better coaches in the division would have had us top 3."
Where you had him behind every other coach in the professional game.
Feel free to untwist away, as I said GFB always good for a laugh but not much else.
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faxcar wrote:[Part quotes="Greg Florimos Boots"]Yeah nothing changed on my view there, well apart from faxcar telling everyone I think Grix is an awful coach. :wink: "Before faxcar tries to twist anything else that I have said........."
You mean something like this from you about Grix being an awful coach. :lol: Quote: "Funny thing is I think any coach in any of the top 3 divisions could have coached us in to 6th place this season with the squad we have.....the better coaches in the division would have had us top 3."
Where you had behind every other coach in the professional game. :lol:
Feel free to untwist away, as I said GFB always good for a laugh but not much else. :lol:
He's reyt though isn't he? Our lass could have got this team into the play-offs and she's a dinner lady! Victorian Craft Beer Café, Vocation Bread & Butter 3.9% Mmm!
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faxcar wrote:[Part quotes="Greg Florimos Boots"]Yeah nothing changed on my view there, well apart from faxcar telling everyone I think Grix is an awful coach. "Before faxcar tries to twist anything else that I have said........."
You mean something like this from you about Grix being an awful coach. Quote: "Funny thing is I think any coach in any of the top 3 divisions could have coached us in to 6th place this season with the squad we have.....the better coaches in the division would have had us top 3."
Where you had behind every other coach in the professional game.
Feel free to untwist away, as I said GFB always good for a laugh but not much else.
Trawling posts and still don't find where I said that he is an awful coach.
As for good for a laugh, well someone has to be seen as though we had to wait a week for you to come up with your last funny.
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Hudd-Shay wrote:He's reyt though isn't he? Our lass could have got this team into the play-offs and she's a dinner lady! Victorian Craft Beer Café, Vocation Bread & Butter 3.9% Mmm!
Reyt about what? GFB’s reyt about Grix being a poor coach when he claims he never said he was.
With logic like that you don’t write the assembly instructions for those diy flat pack companies by any chance do you?
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Greg Florimos Boots wrote:Trawling posts and still don't find where I said that he is an awful coach.
As for good for a laugh, well someone has to be seen as though we had to wait a week for you to come up with your last funny.
I don’t have to trawl through anything, unlike you I have a good memory and when a idiot whispers it might go unnoticed but when he shouts it out it becomes obvious and sticks.
And if claiming every other coach in the top 3 divisions would do a better job especially when in the time since you’ve said it some have been sacked based on their performance isn’t saying he’s an awful coach what is? Twist away though.
Even Hudds thinks that’s what you said and that you were right in saying it so someone’s got their wires crossed.
Not getting a laugh for that one because it’s all so pathetically sad.
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I think our link with Cas has been used with respect but the problem is that we are bottom feeding, Cas are awful and have had a bad time with injuries, we have been awful as well for the most part and I bet Grix would have liked to bring some quality in from Cas but the simple fact is that they don't have it. 
