We need a quality No6. Hampshire & Cust are not good enough. If the price to pay is losing French or Field, then so be it, although I'd rather retain both and have French on the wing and Field at full back, with Field moving to stand off occasionally if there's a knock to either the stand-off or Smith and French filling in at full back.

The problem is, who is of the same star quality as Field or French, and a 6, who is available

I think it's up to the coaches to work out how to get the best from French at stand off.

They have decided to play him there to get his hands on the ball more - however it's pointless if he's not using his main attacking threat while he has hands on the ball.

At times we look as though we have no structure or shape at all and i think even a top class 6 would would be made to look ordinary with the way the team shapes up.

Compare to Leigh, they play to make use of their strengths,7, 9, 8,, Charnley, hard running props (who had been discarded elsewhere) who make good ground from their line. They play to a structure, they run hard, get some momentum, Lam comes round late and Asiotai is a great ball playing prop who puts doubt in the mind of defenders and makes gaps. Dare i say it, Lam is looking like a far better coach than Matty at the moment.

If we had a similar approach with Smithies or Mago playing a ball playing role, and had French coming into the line like Lam, with Field, KPP, Nsemba out of the back we would have the advantage of far greater pace and options to straighten up or go out to the wing. But we just don't do it, we just seem to shunt the ball across the line and hope French plays a cut out, high risk line ball to the wing.

I really wonder what we do in training other than play up the middle, tire the opposition out and wait until they are knackered and get Field or French to scare them with pace and pass it to Miski on the wing when a defender is having a breather - which seems to be our tactic. And yes it does work alot of the time - but relies on us not playing one of the better teams who we can't tire out as easily, or being sloppy ourselves and not completing enough to tire them out.

I do feel we need an outside view looking in on the team at our attacking structure and giving some alternate opinions. It's not beyond a good coach to build a really good, repeatable attacking shape around Smith and French's pace and footwork in the halves.

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Can’t work out why French doesn’t swap into the full back role in certain attacking sets, gets wider and get the ball at full pace.

He need to use him more creatively.

I thought that was going to be an option with Powell on the bench on friday, have him and O'Neill on and use French wider

Penrith often has Yeo playing at first receiver, then on to Cleary to distribute. This allows Jerome Luai to run wider with more space. Bevan is more than capable of playing a Luai type role. If Smithies pay the Yeo role, and Smith plays the Cleary role, we should be able to have Bevan running wider with the option of the long or short pass to wing or centre. Cleary has the option of using Luia, Edwards, or a second rower. If we attack to our left, we could run a similar play with Smith having the option of passing to Bevan, Farrell or Field. Speed to burn out wide and play of indecision in the defence’s minds.

I get what you are saying, but let’s not simplify the issue. Comparing Smith, French and Smithies to Clearly, Luai and Yeo and their respective abilities is a bit of a stretch.

But the opposition isn't NRL standard either so they don't need to be.

It works as a principle.

I did think that when I was proposing it.

I personally do not see Smithies or indeed anyone currently at the club who could fill the Yeo role.

Possibly Shorrrocks but still not convinced he has the all round game to be a regular starting 13 for a club hoping to be in contention for trophies year in year out.