WireWireWire wrote:Once again, its not my job to figure that out. It doesn't mean I can't have a negative opinion on a decision made, based on the facts at hand. Which is - Burgess' personal success never did anything for those around him, because aside from 1 solitary year, all Souths were, were nearly men. We've had that ad nauseum.
Look, you're right - you're welcome to an opinion, however gloomy. I just wonder about the absolute certainty you have that it will all end so badly. I'm willing to accept that it could end badly. But I prefer to think that Sam has looked at us, decided there is a job that could be done and offered up his services. If the reports of him requesting training videos and keeping Gary Chambers up til 2 am are right, then he certainly means business. All the testimonials he's received from down under since the announcement are positive. Surely the winter will pass better with a sense of optimism than utter dread?
My final point - sorry about this but my inner John Cleese just won't let this go - nausea is first declension - the accusative takes -am. So ad nauseam - write it out 5 times!
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AppleyBridgeWire wrote:Look, you're right - you're welcome to an opinion, however gloomy. I just wonder about the absolute certainty you have that it will all end so badly. I'm willing to accept that it could end badly. But I prefer to think that Sam has looked at us, decided there is a job that could be done and offered up his services. If the reports of him requesting training videos and keeping Gary Chambers up til 2 am are right, then he certainly means business. All the testimonials he's received from down under since the announcement are positive. Surely the winter will pass better with a sense of optimism than utter dread?
My final point - sorry about this but my inner John Cleese just won't let this go - nausea is first declension - the accusative takes -am. So ad nauseam - write it out 5 times!
2 points. 1 for the comments on Burgess and another point for the Latin.
AppleyBridgeWire wrote:Look, you're right - you're welcome to an opinion, however gloomy. I just wonder about the absolute certainty you have that it will all end so badly. I'm willing to accept that it could end badly. But I prefer to think that Sam has looked at us, decided there is a job that could be done and offered up his services. If the reports of him requesting training videos and keeping Gary Chambers up til 2 am are right, then he certainly means business. All the testimonials he's received from down under since the announcement are positive. Surely the winter will pass better with a sense of optimism than utter dread?
My final point - sorry about this but my inner John Cleese just won't let this go - nausea is first declension - the accusative takes -am. So ad nauseam - write it out 5 times!
Watching training videos should be the minimum expectation of a coach walking into an organisation lol? And keeping Chambers up till 2am? Well for Sam its 2pm, so he's just up at normal hours, nothing above and beyond about that.
Also, i'm not saying it'll end badly. I'm saying the best we're gonna get is top 4. Which is useless, we've been there, done that, most seasons. Burgess getting us to do that is just the absolute minimum expectation based on the previous decade. So people saying he'll do a job, and 'can't be any worse than Powell' well no, i'd agree. But 4th shouldn't be acceptable either and yet everyone seems content with that just cause we've had a couple crap years.
WireWireWire wrote:Watching training videos should be the minimum expectation of a coach walking into an organisation lol? And keeping Chambers up till 2am? Well for Sam its 2pm, so he's just up at normal hours, nothing above and beyond about that.
OK - but the fact he doesn't start the job for months must deserve some credit - even from you!??
AppleyBridgeWire wrote:OK - but the fact he doesn't start the job for months must deserve some credit - even from you!??
To an extent. But its still largely just due dilligence and likely something every coach does when hired months in advance of taking over a club. I'm sure Price did that before he came over. He very clearly did because there's no way he just turned up day 1 and had us in two finals first year.
WireWireWire wrote:To an extent. But its still largely just due dilligence and likely something every coach does when hired months in advance of taking over a club. I'm sure Price did that before he came over. He very clearly did because there's no way he just turned up day 1 and had us in two finals first year.
It would appear that the club previously went with what the fans want in their decision to appoint Powell and not consider wane. Sick of the we want to be entertained ideology some want this more than a grand final win!!
Burgess is a risk I think he is taking a bigger risk by coming here as his first big job so both parties will be doing their utmost to make sure it works out but he extends his contract to stay longer rather than go to the NRL.
I don't understand how so many people know him and his rugby knowledge and coaching ability when they probably didn't know who he was coaching or what he has been doing after he retired ??
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