Oh dear

I've seen a lot of Saints fans in complete melt down since yesterday. A lot are getting overly defensive, like our resident troll here. It really shows there is a culture of poor mentality there.

Anyone who doesn't see that Leigh have done everything right to build a strong, well experienced squad capable of challenging for silverware, needs their eyes tested.

Any Saints fans that don't see that their reign is coming to an end also need to wake up and smell the coffee. But they should not get so stroppy about it.

Waits for the troll to make an appearance.

Rowley was quite right in his post match interview. Although I like the way he forgot to mention one of his teams tries was on the back of a scandalous decision against Saints.

But overall he is right. The standard of officiating is terrible. 3 games, maybe 4 that Saints have lost this season purely down to the refs is not good enough. I am sure other teams are also on the receiving end as well so something needs to change.

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Which "scandalous": decision was that LeBron? I assume you weren't at the game so is it something you've picked up from RedVee?

Saints got plenty of favourable decisions yesterday so please don't start with the Scouse persecution complex that Saints fans are famous for having adopted.

Been quite a few Saints fans saying the first Salford try came from an obstruction, but to me the runner keeps running through the line. It'd be one of those ones that a video ref overanalyses.

The Knowles knock on was a bad miss though IMO. It may have gone backwards from a Salford shoulder, but Knowles either loses it forwards into that defender or passes it forward into that defender.

Worst thing about saints winning the grand final this season is Warringtonwolves69. He’s going to try and make out that this was some kind of unexpected, against the odds achievement, but one that is the greatest in human sporting history.

Reality is I called it before last season had even finished. It’s that predictable.

St Helens are already the greatest English club of all time. That is fact and cannot be disputed. If they manage to win SL for a fifth time despite the worst injury crisis in history and with the rfl doing their best to stop them it doesn’t add much to their legacy, it just shows how embarrassingly poor the rest of SL is.

There should only be 2 “A” licenses given out. Wigan and St Helens to rate any other club as A is laughable.

It isnt a fact though. Wigan are the most successful club of all time then Leeds then St Helens, that mate cannot be disputed.

We really don't need to dig over the bones of that one again. It's widely accepted that trophies won against manual labourers, painters and decorators and school teachers in the pre-professional era don't count. The ones Leeds won in that era do as they didn't go bust doing it at least. Are they not way behind Saints on titles won anyway? We don't need to include Mickey Mouse things like the Wetherby Whaler, BBC Yorkshire Candlelit Trophy or Challenge Cup.