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 Post subject: Re: A SAD YEAR
PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:31 pm 
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Wires71 wrote:Just on this point what did we allegedly do wrong with Latu, Magoulias and McGuire?


Brought over Latu , told him he was overweight and made him train in a back street gym on his own with a voulunteer conditioner ?

Billy Margoulias , Brought him over , told him 4 weeks into a season he wasn't required and would play the rest of the season in the reserves , then if he wanted to carry on the contract next season he would lose his house ?

McGuire , Told to do one thing by the coach and another thing by the players and the Board. Eventually "left by his own will". I am not condoning his alleged behavior in any way. However the way it was handled an subsequently spoke about by people who should not be named is shambolic.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:27 pm 
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BOBBIE_IS_SUPERMAN wrote:Brought over Latu , told him he was overweight and made him train in a back street gym on his own with a voulunteer conditioner ?

Billy Margoulias , Brought him over , told him 4 weeks into a season he wasn't required and would play the rest of the season in the reserves , then if he wanted to carry on the contract next season he would lose his house ?

McGuire , Told to do one thing by the coach and another thing by the players and the Board. Eventually "left by his own will". I am not condoning his alleged behavior in any way. However the way it was handled an subsequently spoke about by people who should not be named is shambolic.


This sounds grim if it is the case.

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 Post subject: Re: A SAD YEAR
PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:36 pm 
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I'm just pleased for Daryl Clark, he made a career choice in committing to us which has meant he's spent the best days of his career at a club treading water and missed out on the chance to win Grand Finals. Now in the later stages of his career he has got a chance to pick up the Grand Final wins that his talent deserves.

Like Hill and Cooper he will be remembered as a fantastic servant to Wire.






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sally cinnamon wrote:Now in the later stages of his career he has got a chance to pick up the Grand Final wins that his talent deserves.
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I said something similar and got destroyed on here :)

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 Post subject: Re: A SAD YEAR
PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:57 pm 
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Wires71 wrote:I said something similar and got destroyed on here :)


Well we can't chunner on about being ruthless and winners etc when we're giving one of our better players a cheery wave and wishing him to go on and win a GF at one of our bitterest rivals. Sorry but I'd be happy if he never won a game playing for them.

No problem with Clark going, I even understand the logic used by our club and certainly understand his. I just hope it's another poor career choice by Clark.

He also didn't miss out on the chance to win GFs - he appeared in two finals.






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ratticusfinch wrote:Well we can't chunner on about being ruthless and winners etc when we're giving one of our better players a cheery wave and wishing him to go on and win a GF at one of our bitterest rivals. Sorry but I'd be happy if he never won a game playing for them.

No problem with Clark going, I even understand the logic used by our club and certainly understand his. I just hope it's another poor career choice by Clark.

He also didn't miss out on the chance to win GFs - he appeared in two finals.


Yes I understand. I mean to say I would be happy for him on a personal level if he was to go a win a GF - but not at the expense of us doing so.

Your last point is very true and astute. He did indeed make 2 GF and 3 CC finals with us since joining in 2015.

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 Post subject: Re: A SAD YEAR
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ratticusfinch wrote:He also didn't miss out on the chance to win GFs - he appeared in two finals.


This is an excellent point. In the decade he's been with us, Clark and his various team-mates have had the chance to win multiple grand finals and challenge cups. That they have not been good enough to do so is, largely, their own fault.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 1:03 pm 
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sally cinnamon wrote:I'm just pleased for Daryl Clark, he made more money in committing to us which has meant he's spent the best days of his career at a club treading water and missed out on the chance to win Grand Finals. Now with his financial future sorted he has got a chance to pick up the Grand Final wins that his talent makes possible.

Like Hill and Cooper he chose to forego a possibly higher trophy count to make more money in what is a very short career.


Thought I'd adjust this by removing sentiment for a bit of realism :wink: .

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