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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:44 pm 
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Double Movement wrote:Thanks, Wilf. Most Dons' coaches haven't been lucky enough to work in a league that has at least 50% 'also rans'. Measuring success solely by win rates is interesting but I'm not sure it's a very good way of assessing 'skill'.

I was in awe of what John Sheridan did but I suspect his win rate probably isn't anywhere near as good as Richard Horne's.

I'd guess the man with the best ever win rate is Ellery Hanley.

Nice stats from Rob Terrace though.


Yep the argument for wins success under RH is obviously statistically up there, but on a personal basis I loved Tony Fishers and Singes teams, must have been the fire in their bellies.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 5:31 pm 
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The teams put together by John Sheridan, Tony Fisher & St John Ellis were my favourites to watch.

Mention of Ellery Hanley always stirs up mixed emotions in me. I always considered him the best British player I'd ever had the privilege of watching ... but ... for me that interview at Warrington (28/09/2008) seconds after promotion to League One destroyed any fondness I might have had for him as a coach.

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Wanderer wrote:The teams put together by John Sheridan, Tony Fisher & St John Ellis were my favourites to watch.

Mention of Ellery Hanley always stirs up mixed emotions in me. I always considered him the best British player I'd ever had the privilege of watching ... but ... for me that interview at Warrington (28/09/2008) seconds after promotion to League One destroyed any fondness I might have had for him as a coach.


Yes, I've never felt such extremes of emotions in the same day as I did on that occasion.

The three you've named are legends. I suppose I have a particular fondness for John Sheridan as he was the first person to show Dons' fans we could be more than a basement club with no hope.

The day I heard of Singe's death was earth shattering. I could not believe it.

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Bloody good memory was The House of Pain, everything about it, the team, the vibe, the soundtrack, the mass brawl with HKR :lol:

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We've been competing with the likes of (no disrespect) west wales, london skolars, cornwall so does that win percentage still look fantastic???

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Kick and chase wrote:We've been competing with the likes of (no disrespect) west wales, london skolars, cornwall so does that win percentage still look fantastic???


Succinct :CLAP:

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They factored that into the maths apparently and yes the stats are still "Great" as Tony the Tiger would say!

Currently the debate for discussion is my match attendance being worse than Horne's win rate - I think they are clutching at straws now

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Wanderer wrote:The teams put together by John Sheridan, Tony Fisher & St John Ellis were my favourites to watch.

Mention of Ellery Hanley always stirs up mixed emotions in me. I always considered him the best British player I'd ever had the privilege of watching ... but ... for me that interview at Warrington (28/09/2008) seconds after promotion to League One destroyed any fondness I might have had for him as a coach.


I agree but the interview and Hanley's departure was prompted by a certain Mr Harrison just dropping all support and walking away yet to this day we still seem to treat said Mr Harrison as some messiah who only gives us the best players.

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Before I set off that morning I'd been informed that Craig had 'gone' and wouldn't be at the game. I suppose it was inevitable that Ellery would follow but the fact that the post-promotion interview was all about his decision to quit still rankles with me.

I said then and stand by it now that the decision to go should have been announced later in the week so that the players and supporters could have at least enjoyed the result at the time.

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Double Movement wrote:The day I heard of Singe's death was earth shattering. I could not believe it.

Ray Green phoned me that afternoon and for once I was pretty speechless. I don't think I could take it in and just about managed to thank him for letting me know.

I attended the funeral at York Minster. What a fantastic turn out!

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