Always seems to be a lot of dirt comes out on players when they leave us. Strange really as it also happened with Arundel(bad attitude), Worthington(lazy), Tyrer & Murrell(too much influence), QLT(not a team player) just to name a few who as veteran players all suddenly developed bad habits meaning they no longer fit in with us. Tyrer in particular was a brutal stamp of authority on somebody seen to have too much influence in the dressing room ripping away his chance to become the clubs all time leading points scorer.
"Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."― Albert Einstein "Everybody gets so much information all day long that they lose their common sense." ― Gertrude Stein "Don't believe everything you read on the internet" ― Abraham Lincoln
The Charlie Caroli wrote:Pete you don’t need a scoreboard , your side never moved at Batley. As for your BOD , I know how hard they are trying to resolve the problems , it’s never easy , maybe Grix should walk , but I don’t blame him for staying , why lose money and put himself out of work .Have Zfaith .
Hey Ian,theres too many clowns on here backing Grix already...
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The Charlie Caroli wrote:Pete you don’t need a scoreboard , your side never moved at Batley. As for your BOD , I know how hard they are trying to resolve the problems , it’s never easy , maybe Grix should walk , but I don’t blame him for staying , why lose money and put himself out of work .Have Zfaith .
Lol! That's a fair point re the scoreboard mate. Last Sunday was terrible, one of my worst days in over 60 years supporting Fax!
Hear All, See All, Say Nowt. Eat All, Sup All, Pay Nowt. And if Tha ever does Owt for Nowt, Allus do it for Thissen.
Beaujangles wrote:Hey Ian,theres too many clowns on here backing Grix already...
I’m not backing Grix , just saying I don’t think he will walk , it’s a thankless job. Your BOD are doing everything to be successful , the signings they have made are decent players , just not gelling together , I’m coming over soon to attend a game , hopefully bring some luck . I’m predicting a Fax win by 12 on Sunday , but it’s gonna be hard to stay in the top 6
gizempo wrote:King didn't want to stay here, Doro is not playing for non-rugby reasons as far as I hear, and if correct rightly so. Neither of which we would have foreseen. Have you ever recruited people that on paper seem to be right for the job but then it doesn't work out, I'll admit I have. As for Springer, my understanding was it was also down his reluctance to put the effort in or to try and improve as well - and was on a decent contract when his lower paid team mates were prepared to work harder. Fev might be better placed to carry him with their squad depth.
Always two sides to a story and never beleive the spin.King came here as Whitehaven's star man to further his career,to be told he wasn't good enough and sat in the stands..wouldn't we all want to leave in that scenario.Doro was dropped and castigated long before any perceived issue.Springer offered more in ten minutes spells than other forwards who are busy for 80 mins but produce nothing. Looking at current players..Tangata now a liability-Larroyer not far behind.Moore-annoys me that he's on the field.Fairbank-where's the offload game ? I could go on..suffice to say it's all stale and not working and needs a complete refresh.
Beaujangles wrote:Always two sides to a story and never beleive the spin.King came here as Whitehaven's star man to further his career,to be told he wasn't good enough and sat in the stands..wouldn't we all want to leave in that scenario.Doro was dropped and castigated long before any perceived issue.Springer offered more in ten minutes spells than other forwards who are busy for 80 mins but produce nothing. Looking at current players..Tangata now a liability-Larroyer not far behind.Moore-annoys me that he's on the field.Fairbank-where's the offload game ? I could go on..suffice to say it's all stale and not working and needs a complete refresh.
Again almost examples of trying to punish players before even giving them a fair chance with King and Doro. Maybe that suggests that Grix didn't have much to do with their signings as it seems strange to sign players and then come out in public and put them down, surely it would make sense to build them up but its never happened with those two along with others.
"Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."― Albert Einstein "Everybody gets so much information all day long that they lose their common sense." ― Gertrude Stein "Don't believe everything you read on the internet" ― Abraham Lincoln
Beaujangles wrote:Always two sides to a story and never beleive the spin.King came here as Whitehaven's star man to further his career,to be told he wasn't good enough and sat in the stands..wouldn't we all want to leave in that scenario.Doro was dropped and castigated long before any perceived issue.Springer offered more in ten minutes spells than other forwards who are busy for 80 mins but produce nothing. Looking at current players..Tangata now a liability-Larroyer not far behind.Moore-annoys me that he's on the field.Fairbank-where's the offload game ? I could go on..suffice to say it's all stale and not working and needs a complete refresh.
You'd be happy working alongside team members who didn't work as hard then whilst getting paid more? Jouffret and Walmsley had a transitional issue when they came from haven but were prepared to knuckle down and work on the areas they need to.
As for Tyrer and Murrell, both at end of their careers, we'd seen the best of them, most on here always complained about Murrell particularly in his latter years with us. Worthington went for more money. Arundel, didn't pull up any trees but i thought he did an ok job and defensively we were stronger with both of them. But again and if is true re his attitude (and I don't know) the impact on the team has to be considered.
But like you say there are 2 sides to every story, doesn't mean we have to go with yours
Greg Florimos Boots wrote:Again almost examples of trying to punish players before even giving them a fair chance with King and Doro. Maybe that suggests that Grix didn't have much to do with their signings as it seems strange to sign players and then come out in public and put them down, surely it would make sense to build them up but its never happened with those two along with others.
If we are bringing players in without the Coach's approval it's no wonder we're struggling.A coach working in conjuction with his scouting system identifies targets required to enhance the team and then approaches the footballing director to provide the necessary backing and finance-it surely can't work another way...?
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