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 Post subject: Re: Where do we go from here
PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:33 am 
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Trebor1 wrote:He's nowhere near Newman's class but yes he's probably one of the better backs we have, just not showed it much as yet

Think you’re overrating Newman bit here. Clearly loads of potential, but just that currently. May become a great player one day. Needs to work on defence and have better luck with injuries.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:39 am 
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Shabino wrote:Think you’re overrating Newman bit here. Clearly loads of potential, but just that currently. May become a great player one day. Needs to work on defence and have better luck with injuries.


Agree with this - the hype on here about Newman is misplaced IMO - has yet to show he has the mental capability to match his physical ability. His defence is miles away from what you would expect from a top player. Compare him to Chev at the same point in there development - Chev was on a different planet to Newman.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:55 am 
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I think they are quite similar Chev and Newman, i think Newman has much more potential however. But i agree he has a fair bit to improve on, i am just saying he's much better than any of our other backs. I do rate Handley highly as a winger but not as a game breaker and for Nene the jury is out yet

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Trebor1 wrote:I think they are quite similar Chev and Newman, i think Newman has much more potential however. But i agree he has a fair bit to improve on, i am just saying he's much better than any of our other backs. I do rate Handley highly as a winger but not as a game breaker and for Nene the jury is out yet


Chev had a much better allround game - a much better pass and a significantly better defender. Newman has more raw power but hasn't got the subtlety Chev had.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:05 pm 
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The other centre was Kallum Watkins - he was never the same player when he didnt have BJB outside him. His pass when they played together was sublime.

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 Post subject: Re: Where do we go from here
PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 1:21 pm 
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Trebor1 wrote:I think they are quite similar Chev and Newman, i think Newman has much more potential however. But i agree he has a fair bit to improve on, i am just saying he's much better than any of our other backs. I do rate Handley highly as a winger but not as a game breaker and for Nene the jury is out yet

I’m afraid imho Chev was a better player at 16 than Newman

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 1:33 pm 
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Shabino wrote:I’m afraid imho Chev was a better player at 16 than Newman

Well Chev/Kallum was then, Harry is now. I just hope his body allows him to live up to his considerable potential.

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ArthurClues wrote:Well Chev/Kallum was then, Harry is now. I just hope his body allows him to live up to his considerable potential.

Yeah that’s fair. Think we all agree Harry has huge potential ton unlock, just needs his body to be a bit kinder to him now, and give him that chance. He is the great hope I guess, and a lot resting on his shoulders….

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 Post subject: Re: Where do we go from here
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Both Walker and even more so Watkins could also pass. I can't see Newman getting close to his potential if he doesn't develop at least a rudimentary passing game. He can pass, but he never looks for it. I've never understood why young centres don't get taught that they are actually more dangerous when they run if there's the threat of setting up their winger to put defenders in two minds. Mind you, its not helped nowadays by wingers standing so flat that passing to them is often all but impossible.

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Shabino wrote:Yeah that’s fair. Think we all agree Harry has huge potential ton unlock, just needs his body to be a bit kinder to him now, and give him that chance. He is the great hope I guess, and a lot resting on his shoulders….

Just need a couple a more with similar athleticism and pace. Maybe then he can focus on some of the subtleties of centre play that he currently isn't showing. He often looks, and probably feels, like is trying to make the difference on his own.

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