Saddened! wrote:This is the approach you have to take, because if you looked at the evidence, you'd agree, and you can't bring yourself to do that. Look at the incidents I've mentioned and tell me where I'm wrong.

Matt King's kitten wrote:I'm sure I speak for a lot of Wire fans, I'm really not bothered if all or none of your lot get banned or not.

Wires71 wrote:Maybe we could have a thread dedicated to "Saints Disciplinary Conspiracy Theory" and let Saddened go nuts in it and others swerve it.

just_browny wrote:I sympathise, but also like having Saddened's rants close at hand as counter evidence to the recurring claims that he is a reasonable and fair minded poster, when of course he is anything but.

Saddened! wrote:He's not though is he. This latest one he put an arm out and caught him, but there was no swinging arm or real force in it. It's not a grade D incident. The other stuff he's been up before the committee for, he's largely been completely innocent of. He's got two referrals and yellow cards for 'high' tackles that were in the middle of the chest for example.

You mock the stance that Saints fans feel we're hard done to, but you can't sensibly argue with the evidence of that. Lees challenge wasn't the worst high shot in the game, Wright's on Ritson was, no charge. 'But it was off the ball Gov!' you all cry, well what about the Catalans player who got off completely with clobbering the Cas player around the head off the ball? That was significantly worse than what Lees did and he plays this weekend.

The late hit from Sironen? What a grub, what a monster. There were FOUR worse ones that that in the Saints v Salford game alone. Makinson for us (Which they picked up), plus Sneyd on Lomax (which was awful) and Croft on Lomax, which they didn't. Croft on Lomax is an interesting one. He knocks him to the ground after he passes to Sironen for his try. Contact is high, with the shoulder, there's no wrap and the passer is left flat on the floor. No charge, no ban, nothing on his record. Sironen wasn't late, wasn't high, wrapped his arms and took his opponent to ground safely. Sironen gets banned.

There are examples like this every single time a Saints player is banned. Lomax cops them every single week and there is never anything for them.

I appreciate it's fun for you because we're getting these, but it's not hard to see that there's a big difference in how we're treated by the MRP than any other club. They tried to get Lees banned for longer too by removing the penalty notice, meaning his ban could be for more than 2-3 games the grade suggests, which is unbelievable. Luckily the independent tribunal laughed at that and agreed with Saints and overturned it, giving him the lowest ban possible, but we've no doubt made things worse by doing that.