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 Post subject: Re: Where do we go from here
PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2023 5:37 pm 
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Though there are obvious issues with the squad, the players that are there are better quality than we are seeing. Constantly doing hard work coming away from your own line is lowering their quality in attack. If we had a shaun wane type coach I recon we would've won significantly more matches this year. Maybe we need to invest in a dedicated defense coach

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maybe we should just play with good line speed and aggression in attack and defence.
maybe someone should mention it to rohan.....

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tad rhino wrote:maybe we should just play with good line speed and aggression in attack and defence.
maybe someone should mention it to rohan.....


Yep there’s that too. Clock is ticking on Rohan to get it right

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Looking like Olpherts to wing Handley to Fb Myler to 7 hope the former have been practicing catching bombs.

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 Post subject: Re: Where do we go from here
PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2023 7:42 am 
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Smith asserts that we've been in all the games this year and the majority could have gone either way. I'm not sure how he can say this is true as we never looked like beating leigh, KR, Salford and especially Warrington.

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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2023 8:08 am 
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Seth wrote:Smith asserts that we've been in all the games this year and the majority could have gone either way. I'm not sure how he can say this is true as we never looked like beating leigh, KR, Salford and especially Warrington.


I don't know whether he means this or not, or whether he's trying to shield the players.

He's clearly an unorthodox coach, which may be in part how we got to the GF last year where he clearly got us playing as a team, which Agar couldn't do. I wish he would just come out and tell us what he is actually aiming for in performance, but the RL journos don't seem to press him on tactics enough. If he genuinely thinks we've played well in attack, what is he marking that against other than 'togetherness' which isn't exactly measurable. If he would give some indication as to what he's aiming for, at least we'd have an idea of how he's trying to play, as at the moment I've no idea!

As others have said though, this is a re-build and I'm sure many very senior high paid players have been told that they are not being offered new deals. That's not a great recipe for getting a team to but into what he's doing.

I think give us more transparency and a road map of where he sees this team going and more of us will get behind him. That's if he knows...

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exiledrhino wrote:I don't know whether he means this or not, or whether he's trying to shield the players.

He's clearly an unorthodox coach, which may be in part how we got to the GF last year where he clearly got us playing as a team, which Agar couldn't do. I wish he would just come out and tell us what he is actually aiming for in performance, but the RL journos don't seem to press him on tactics enough. If he genuinely thinks we've played well in attack, what is he marking that against other than 'togetherness' which isn't exactly measurable. If he would give some indication as to what he's aiming for, at least we'd have an idea of how he's trying to play, as at the moment I've no idea!

As others have said though, this is a re-build and I'm sure many very senior high paid players have been told that they are not being offered new deals. That's not a great recipe for getting a team to but into what he's doing.

I think give us more transparency and a road map of where he sees this team going and more of us will get behind him. That's if he knows...


Yep, good point and could be a factor behind recent performances. I don't like the way that works is RL. You end up with loads of players knowing that they playing elsewhere next season and it's only May.

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Trebor1 wrote:Yep, good point and could be a factor behind recent performances. I don't like the way that works is RL. You end up with loads of players knowing that they playing elsewhere next season and it's only May.


If that was the case they would be on the RFL recent player list as not offered a deal I think? (I could be wrong)

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Seth wrote:Smith asserts that we've been in all the games this year and the majority could have gone either way. I'm not sure how he can say this is true as we never looked like beating leigh, KR, Salford and especially Warrington.


I wouldn't read too much into the pressers, its very rare a coach will come out and berate the players, he has said on multiple occasions that as a team we are nowhere near we should be but still has the belief that we can be, that's pretty standard for a coach to say in pressers, he's not daft.

I think the point he is making is that bar Warrington, we haven't been hammered, which we haven't, we've always been within one or two scores, I'm not saying that's good enough, it isn't.

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