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 Post subject: Re: IMG Vote
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:36 am 
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Beaujangles wrote:Our announcement on the subject is almost as bad as the decision to support it....


A lot of words without really saying a lot. It would have been nice to know some of the finer details as to why we voted for it.

Either way with promotion or the new system, we are a million miles away from been a SL club so nothing really changes for us and although I woud love to keep P & R its not viable in a game where the second tier is part time. Like everything in RL there will like be a new new system along in 2 or 3 years anyway.







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 Post subject: Re: IMG Vote
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:02 am 
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I've just read the statement by the board of Halifax RLFC and I can't believe how they have got it so wrong. It's quite obvious that the decision to vote for the proposals comes from a position of us being one of the clubs without a wealthy benefactor, I understand that. I also get the great work that they've done and continue to do to keep this famous club afloat. The thing is the supporters have lived on the hope of jam tomorrow for 20 odd years and it's wearing thin to say the least. Whatever the financial state of the game or the club, to put our name to a system which effectively sees us playing friendlies for the next four years at least is outrageous. Sit in any pub or workplace and almost everyone will tell you their number one reason for not attending Fax games is the lack of promotion/relegation, i.e. nowt to play for. That's a fact and that is what this BOD have voted for. Regardless of anything else we should not have voted for that. Never, ever.






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 Post subject: Re: IMG Vote
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:51 am 
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I will play Devils Advocate.

So many sensible thoughts are being put on paper here ( paper? Showing my age there). Ever since RFL went to two and then three divisions there have been clubs who would Yo Yo up and down . Fax were one of these apart from the Brook years and when we spent the money from the sale of Thrum Hall.
I realise that without promotion the lower divisions will have lost fans appeal but what is the alternative, the slow death of pro League.
As i see it IMG were brought in to maximise the potential of the sport and particularly Super League. To be fair I have not read their submission but think this meant making it more attractive to advertisers and by definition to broadcasters.
The way to do this i feel is to make the games more competitive. How do you do this: salary cap. However very few clubs can afford to pay anywhere near the cap so central funding has to increase to each club. The problem is now Sky want to reduce what they pay. Will IMG`s ideas improve funding and the game overall? The Fax board and most of the others seem to think so.
What is the alternative, we may find out the next time someone is brought in to advise on how the game can survive.
I said to a group of friends in 1995 that i doubted professional rugby league would survive for ten years after union going pro. I was wrong but the lack of converts particularly from Wales has meant that the wow factor those quality players is no longer in the British game. I am glad I was wrong can still watch Fax nearly 30 years on all be it without a Freeman,Dixon, James ,Michael, Willicombe or Renilson in the side.

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 Post subject: Re: IMG Vote
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:31 am 
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Hudd-Shay wrote:I've just read the statement by the board of Halifax RLFC and I can't believe how they have got it so wrong. It's quite obvious that the decision to vote for the proposals comes from a position of us being one of the clubs without a wealthy benefactor, I understand that. I also get the great work that they've done and continue to do to keep this famous club afloat. The thing is the supporters have lived on the hope of jam tomorrow for 20 odd years and it's wearing thin to say the least. Whatever the financial state of the game or the club, to put our name to a system which effectively sees us playing friendlies for the next four years at least is outrageous. Sit in any pub or workplace and almost everyone will tell you their number one reason for not attending Fax games is the lack of promotion/relegation, i.e. nowt to play for. That's a fact and that is what this BOD have voted for. Regardless of anything else we should not have voted for that. Never, ever.

I would have to disagree all out why people don’t come and watch the like they used to and it isn’t promotion/relegation (might be for a few folk) one factor is we aren’t in the top league. The top teams didn’t suffer loss of spectators when licensing was introduced. In fact in May have increased. When we went out of SL many people, including people I know, stopped going simple as that. Clearly they didn’t want to pay to watch championship rugby and also went that much of a dedicated supporter or went up the hill to Bradford because they wanted to watch SL and feel part of a winning team. Numbers have been down for us for years since Sunday training was brought in so shops, pubs restaurants etc are all Open on Sundays. So many folk have other things to attrac them.
Most SL teams SL teams play on a Friday when not on TV simply because of what Sky demands for its broadcast. Do people on here think if we (or the championship)started playing the games On a Friday night this would improve attendances?


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 Post subject: Re: IMG Vote
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:10 pm 
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I doubt it,but I'm a Sunday tradionalist and it really pi**es me off when they get moved.I've had to miss both Bradford games when they could and should have been Sunday fixtures.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:28 pm 
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Beaujangles wrote:I doubt it,but I'm a Sunday tradionalist and it really pi**es me off when they get moved.I've had to miss both Bradford games when they could and should have been Sunday fixtures.

I prefer Sundays too

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 Post subject: Re: IMG Vote
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:25 pm 
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Faxlore wrote:Read an article about how Castleford have said they are applying for planning permission to upgrade Their stadium because of the new criteria. That is so funny as that was a criteria when the first licensing was introduced. They never did anything to Wheldon Road and constantly told the RFL licnecing body they had plans in place. 15years later they have started saying the same. It will all end in tears. (Or the professional game of Rugby League going to the wall)


Not sure where you read that but it's complete rubbish

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 Post subject: Re: IMG Vote
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:30 pm 
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Barrow's statement https://www.barrowrlfc.com/latest-news/ ... -img-vote/

Sounds as though the vote was like one from a few years ago when everyone thought they knew what they were voting for.....

Barrow Raiders were disappointed, despite repeated requests, that we were denied access to the detail of the proposals.

We were told that we would be able to attract investors because we would know exactly what we needed to improve to become an A-grade club. Unfortunately with the lack of detail in the proposal that transparency has yet to emerge. We had hoped we would have sight of the detail before the vote.
Barrow's statement https://www.barrowrlfc.com/latest-news/ ... -img-vote/

Sounds as though the vote was like one from a few years ago when everyone thought they knew what they were voting for.....

Barrow Raiders were disappointed, despite repeated requests, that we were denied access to the detail of the proposals.

We were told that we would be able to attract investors because we would know exactly what we needed to improve to become an A-grade club. Unfortunately with the lack of detail in the proposal that transparency has yet to emerge. We had hoped we would have sight of the detail before the vote.

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 Post subject: Re: IMG Vote
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Mr Dog wrote:Not sure where you read that but it's complete rubbish

Castleford Tigers' Managing Director Mark Grattan: The club is preparing to oversee significant enhancements to their facility, with Grattan providing an update on progress. "All we're waiting for now is literally a date for the council to put it to planning and then the decision. Once that goes through, we've been told funding is there, available and good to go. It's not going to be May because there are local elections, so we're hoping June or slightly beyond that."

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