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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:39 am 
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Dave K. wrote:Do we have bad attitudes or are the players not good enough, I think it's more the latter


Probably a mixture of the two.

Our middle is too soft and lazy for me.

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 Post subject: Re: Shopping list for 2024
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:40 am 
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Dave K. wrote:Do we have bad attitudes or are the players not good enough, I think it's more the latter


I'd say its both to be honest Dave as whether you're good enough or not, you can still put effort in, show desire and quite honestly I've seen little of that so far this season. We must be one of if not the laziest team in SL and that shows in our woeful attempts at defence and in particular tackling which they just want to make a grab instead of bending their backs a getting stuck in. The difference between us and Leigh in that area alone was night and day, Leighs defensive line speed was far quicker than us, as soon as we played the ball they were on us and they made sure their tackles stuck. Compared to us, we just stood waiting then made lazy attempts and grabbed players often bouncing off. We were never in the game as we struggled to make 20-30 metres in a set yet we gift the opposition at least 10M every ptb with our unwillingness to get off the mark to defend when the balls played.






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 Post subject: Re: Shopping list for 2024
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:54 am 
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Ellam wrote:Going to be a BIG shop this season.


Great to hear :D

4 quota spots to play with so hopefully we can fill them with some quality and leaders at the same time.






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RockNRolla wrote:Great to hear :D

4 quota spots to play with so hopefully we can fill them with some quality and leaders at the same time.


Definitely use three of them, Satae not sure, on his day he cam devastating and looks one of the best props I the league, but looks lazy other times.

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 Post subject: Re: Shopping list for 2024
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:02 am 
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Chris71 wrote:I'd say its both to be honest Dave as whether you're good enough or not, you can still put effort in, show desire and quite honestly I've seen little of that so far this season. We must be one of if not the laziest team in SL and that shows in our woeful attempts at defence and in particular tackling which they just want to make a grab instead of bending their backs a getting stuck in. The difference between us and Leigh in that area alone was night and day, Leighs defensive line speed was far quicker than us, as soon as we played the ball they were on us and they made sure their tackles stuck. Compared to us, we just stood waiting then made lazy attempts and grabbed players often bouncing off. We were never in the game as we struggled to make 20-30 metres in a set yet we gift the opposition at least 10M every ptb with our unwillingness to get off the mark to defend when the balls played.


Lam is a good defensive coach

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 Post subject: Re: Shopping list for 2024
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:55 am 
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Think I'd gamble on Savelio and keep him, our best forward, who would get into any SL side, injuries are an issue, but I'd keep him.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:05 am 
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Dave K. wrote:Think I'd gamble on Savelio and keep him, our best forward, who would get into any SL side, injuries are an issue, but I'd keep him.


Agree with this, if he keeps fit he'll probably be the first forward down on the teamsheet for me, still got age on his side also.

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 Post subject: Re: Shopping list for 2024
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:05 am 
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Dave K. wrote:Think I'd gamble on Savelio and keep him, our best forward, who would get into any SL side, injuries are an issue, but I'd keep him.


I agree. If we can improve the team in general I think he'll look even better. We rarely manage to get him into favourable matchups but when we do he usually does the business.






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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:06 pm 
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Just treading water until we can get players in who can carry out TS’s game plan I reckon.

Still need a decent nine who can control a game and compliment Dwyer if he stays. Hopefully maximise the quota spots, which has been woefully mismanaged.

Think we already have a Director of Rugby at the club. He happens to coach the side as well.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:01 pm 
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Dave K. wrote:Do we have bad attitudes or are the players not good enough, I think it's more the latter


for me its both
Lets hope you have changed your mind about giving Taylor and Griffin a contract extension

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