What does that even mean? Have you had a few beers or something?

Let's be really clear about what I'm looking for when it comes to Wigan - it's to be the best RL side in the world. I want to see us go over to Aus, like Saints have just done and beat the best of the best. After that I want to be dominating SL. We won't do that with Singleton playing in the majority of our games. We've got enough bodies, we now need to sign some proven talent.

Substitutions not sunshine.

Peet put Singleton on at a crucial time when the game needed closing out as he knows he can do a job (one you admit you don’t understand).

We cannot sign a team full of superstars due to the cap and finances…we need grafters like Singleton.

Proven talent like?

“Islanders”? Atoni?

This got levelled at us last year I think unfairly but this year it really is the case.

Farrell is our only good consistent forward. The 6 middles are all much of a muchness pretty solid in defence, make about 6 metres a carry, never break a tackle never offload (Fair play to Ellis creating a bit tonight).


I’ve wanted this for the past 12 months but there can be no debate now. French has to play 1 and Field 6. They are our 2 best players and we need them around the action at all times. French barely getting a touches for 5/10 minute spells last week and this week on the wing is such a waste.

I’ve been a Cust critic for a while now but other people are starting to see it. I love his passion and he seems a nice bloke but what is he good at ? Never does a killer try assist, leaves all the kicking to smith, never makes a breaks, below average in D.


Field at 6 and French at 1 puts Smith under a lot of pressure because he’s basically playing half back on his own with 2 full backs with him. However he’s been playing half back on his own anyway with Cust being a passenger.

We made life alot easier when had a loose forward who could pass in Powell. Oh to have Sean O’Loughlin. There would be an argument to bring Shorrocks back as he can link play pretty well from that position.

Miski or Thornley or academy player onto the wing for next week. Cust either dropped or bench hooker (him on the bench covers basically all positions 1-7 as we can shift people around)

We look miles behind Saints and Wire and I think it’s due to not handling the quota right.

French superstar

Field Superstar

Ellis - Going okay this year but is he doing anything the other English props can’t do

Isa - can’t even get a game and is coming to the end

Mago - can’t get a game and can’t defend our keep hold of the ball

Cust - should be dropped

Miski - Slow winger who never gets a game.

Compare this to Saints who played all their quota players in the WCC and Wire whose overseas props are making a huge impact along with Dufty and Drink water in key positions.

Sorry for long post but to summaries just pass to the ball to Field and French and hope something happens.

Argue with yourself mate. If you think Singleton is a good prop, then that says more about you than any argument I can counter with.

He's ooc this year. I'm sure we'll be lucky to keep him, as there must be all the big NRL sides in for him. He's that good right
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I’m not arguing with anyone. I’m simply posting on a forum and presenting you with the facts of what happened tonight.

Singleton was brought on to close the game out and slow the offence down (all things you admit you don’t understand).

You are wanting us to sign a prop that does less meters and tackles than one we have and an “Islander” to play in the centre over our biggest meter maker.

I have no issue with Singleton ‘if’ he’s been used in a way his talent warrants. He’s a 5th/6th choice prop, on a low wage and if he’s willing to accept that, great, but we’re using him as a front liner and some sort of front row leader and he is not up to that.

The pack needs a big overhaul. I only really have confidence in Farrell, Smithies and to a lesser degree, Havard, Byrne and Cooper. The hooking spot is an issue, the props are an issue and that right sided second row is now a big issue as well.

Tonight i think we saw quite a significant changing of the guard by Peet in relation to our 9 with the way Powell was used.

Agree, decent veteran body but compare him to the rest of the leagues number 8 and 10 and he doesn’t stack up.

Maybe this is very harsh but his build annoys me, like I often think “is he doing everything he can, fitness and diet wise, to be the best rugby league player he can be”

Hope so but sadly I thought Brad O’Neill was scruffy as well. He at least looked sharper in getting out from dummy half though and I thought Powell actually added to us when he came in and seemed to play at loose forward late on.

Thank you - a bit of sense.

I'll agree that if he wants to be back up guy, like Amor was for Saints, then let's retain him in that role. That starting spot however, needs to go to someone who's a hell of a lot better.