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Post subject: Re: World Cup
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:54 am
RogerMoore
Player Coach
Joined: Jan 24 2006Posts: 224Location: Warrington
Wasn't just Welsby, Watkins, Bateman, McIlorum and Young all had a poor game. Even so, could have been so much different if Whitehead had taken the tackle at the end of his break. A drop goal would have won it at that stage.
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Post subject: Re: World Cup
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:33 am
Dave K.
International Board Member
Joined: Mar 14 2003Posts: 25781Location: Back in Hull.
Thetalentboy wrote: Common sense says play the same team who beat samoa in the 1st match If he played different team and lost people would be saying whys he changed it so wane literally couldn't win Welsby was the best player last time Gotta remember samoa have 5 or 6 grand final winners from NRL who walked in the origin team and starred in the origin ( luai, Crichton, to'o ) And I hope samoa win next week
Common sense you don't play an average hooker, who didn't have one good game and offers nothing in attack.
Agree about Samoa winning it, don't think they will get close unfortunately
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Post subject: Re: World Cup
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:43 pm
Thetalentboy
International Board Member
Joined: Feb 23 2003Posts: 5518Location: Hull
Dave K. wrote: Common sense you don't play an average hooker, who didn't have one good game and offers nothing in attack. Agree about Samoa winning it, don't think they will get close unfortunately
Roby and Clark are better than mcilorum 100%
But mcilorum offers some defensive aggression but for some reason was getting run over the top against samoa
But he's still a class above Houghton hence why Houghton has never had a full international cap or got close really
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Post subject: Re: World Cup
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:56 pm
Dave K.
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Joined: Mar 14 2003Posts: 25781Location: Back in Hull.
Thetalentboy wrote: Roby and Clark are better than mcilorum 100% But mcilorum offers some defensive aggression but for some reason was getting run over the top against samoa But he's still a class above Houghton hence why Houghton has never had a full international cap or got close really
He isn't, the main reason he has caps is that he played for Wigan.
Both are solid SL hookers nothing more, England have failed for years, so I'm not sure England caps are a measure of how good a player is.
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Post subject: Re: World Cup
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:02 pm
The Hollywood Frasier
Club Coach
Joined: Feb 14 2005Posts: 9460
Thetalentboy wrote: But mcilorum offers some defensive aggression but for some reason was getting run over the top against samoa
Because they went at him all game to tire him out because Wane got the bench wrong.
Hard Work Beats Talent, When Talent Doesn't Work Hard
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Post subject: Re: World Cup
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:12 pm
B0NES
Club Coach
Joined: Jan 15 2005Posts: 12415Location: Hull
Some players will have played there last world cup for England , Time to move on Tompkins , Hill , McIlorum , Whitehead.
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Post subject: Re: World Cup
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:49 pm
The Hollywood Frasier
Club Coach
Joined: Feb 14 2005Posts: 9460
B0NES wrote: Some players will have played there last world cup for England , Time to move on Tompkins , Hill , McIlorum , Whitehead.
Don't think Whitehead has ever got the credit he deserves, he's consistently one of England's best performers.
Hopefully Newman can get over his injury problems because him and Herbie together could be our centres for the next decade.
Hard Work Beats Talent, When Talent Doesn't Work Hard
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Post subject: Re: World Cup
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:36 pm
mwindass
Player Coach
Joined: Nov 19 2008Posts: 5380
We've got Wardle at centre too. Hopefully he can fulfil his potential
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Post subject: Re: World Cup
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:56 pm
B0NES
Club Coach
Joined: Jan 15 2005Posts: 12415Location: Hull
The Hollywood Frasier wrote: Don't think Whitehead has ever got the credit he deserves, he's consistently one of England's best performers. Hopefully Newman can get over his injury problems because him and Herbie together could be our centres for the next decade.
I think Whitehead is a fantastic player both for club & Country , but he'll be 36 when France 2025 comes around .
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Post subject: Re: World Cup
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:03 pm
B0NES
Club Coach
Joined: Jan 15 2005Posts: 12415Location: Hull
Gutted for the women in their semi final , but some of the players just didn't perform tonight . Far to many errors , poor defence & kicking game handed the Ferns an easy win imo . Hopefully they can build again and come back even stronger for the next world cup . Really enjoyed watching some of the games in the Womans comp .
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