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ComeOnYouUll wrote:Yup, Grand Final appearances:
St Helens 14 Leeds 11 Wigan 11 Bradford 6 Warrington 4 Hull FC 1 Castleford 1 Salford 1 Catalans 1
I think even that makes it look better than it is, given that the seven appearances listed last were all runner-ups and Bradford’s last GF was 2005.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Mild Rover wrote:I think even that makes it look better than it is, given that the seven appearances listed last were all runner-ups and Bradford’s last GF was 2005.
Good point, MR.
In fact you have to right back to 1988-89 and Widnes when someone other than Wigan, Leeds, Saints or Bradord were RL champions.
Mind you it could be worse. In Scottish football only Celtic or Rangers have been Champions since 1985-86 and between them they've won all but four league titles since the mid 60s (and three of those were consecutive seasons in the 1980s).
Mrs Barista wrote:Seeing that we're now 26 years into super league, I wonder how this concentration of the title in so few clubs compares to the 26 years beforehand.
Wigan were Champions for each of the last seven seasons before Super League but between 1970-71 and 1988-89 the following clubs won the league
St Helens Leeds Dewsbury Salford Featherstone Widnes Hull KR Bradford Northern Leigh Hull FC Halifax
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ComeOnYouUll wrote:Good point, MR.
In fact you have to right back to 1988-89 and Widnes when someone other than Wigan, Leeds, Saints or Bradord were RL champions.
Mind you it could be worse. In Scottish football only Celtic or Rangers have been Champions since 1985-86 and between them they've won all but four league titles since the mid 60s (and three of those were consecutive seasons in the 1980s).
Yep. Bayern Munich made it 10 in a row Bundesliga titles earlier this year. It’s not unique to SL.
However, a point I’ve made (i.e. absolutely flogged to death) recently is that I doubt Rangers or Celtic fans go around spouting off about their superior culture and how they do things the right way to fans of Motherwell, St Johnstone or Kilmarnock. Or, if they do, I imagine fans of those other clubs at least have the gumption to tell them where to stick it.
Even US sport, which is generally considered much better balanced saw the Patriots reach 9 and win 6 Super Bowls in 18 seasons, and the Warriors and Cavaliers contested four NBA finals in a row. However, those runs include contenders for the greatest teams/players in their sports histories’, and there’s an assumption that it won’t go on indefinitely.
SL feels like a league where time stood still. A player being ‘ambitious and wanting to win trophies’ is synonymous with requesting a transfer to St Helens or Wigan. Is winning trophies there even impressive at this point? I’m not claiming that the lads at those clubs don’t work hard or aren’t talented, but at this point it just feels like the medals come up with their rations.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
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mwindass wrote:Now the England RU defence coach. Takes over from Seibold
Not shocked at him getting a job, as think he had some good qualities, could see him being involved in junior pathways, but surprised to see him as a defence coach.
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Not shocked at him getting a job, as think he had some good qualities, could see him being involved in junior pathways, but surprised to see him as a defence coach.
