I was a lone voice back in the day and even more isolated when he was winning with a star studded Leeds, but I maintain he Isa bang average coach (if that) Remember, we never finished in the top half of the table under him and Toronto were bloody awful in SL.
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orangeman wrote:I was a lone voice back in the day and even more isolated when he was winning with a star studded Leeds, but I maintain he Isa bang average coach (if that) Remember, we never finished in the top half of the table under him and Toronto were bloody awful in SL.
I felt very alone in the Cabbage Patch when I asked him where we'd finish in 2009 and he said first...when I replied "really, where will we finish"" and he growled at me, Hughes chuckled.......we finished 11th! I kid you not. I reckon I could have coached Leeds to those GF wins. It was like they played to his instructions for 40 minutes then played their own way thereafter...look at the stats for his Leeds results. They scored more in the 2nd half 90% of the time.....Sinfield was coach in all but name!
orangeman wrote:I was a lone voice back in the day and even more isolated when he was winning with a star studded Leeds, but I maintain he Isa bang average coach (if that) Remember, we never finished in the top half of the table under him and Toronto were bloody awful in SL.
You were not a lone voice I said the same, when he took over at Leeds the team picked itself. When you look at his London record he was a crap coach.
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Unfortunately for Mac he's a 70's coach building his team on aggression/fitness (which all teams have). Sadly he lacks the intelligence top coaches have who can mould teams, introduce innovation, plan ways to out fox the opposition, map a year out.......... Gutterfax/Orange mentioned above he could coach that Leeds team. Mac actually ruined it at the end, falling out with Burrows putting him at 9 and then couldn't create a new team as that one got old. He seems to bring in average speed centres and second rowers and creates a team around them that doesn't have dynamism. I think thats him finished now. His name doesn't come up when vacancies appear in SL.
orangeman wrote:I was a lone voice back in the day and even more isolated when he was winning with a star studded Leeds, but I maintain he Isa bang average coach (if that) Remember, we never finished in the top half of the table under him and Toronto were bloody awful in SL.
You weren't a lone voice. And as others have said that Leeds team coached itself - Mac went to Leeds as assistant, so far had his stock fallen, but landed the Head Coach job by default.
Rise like Lions after slumber In unvanquishable number-- Shake your chains to earth like dew Which in sleep had fallen on you-- Ye are many -- they are few.'
Joined: Jan 23 2006 Posts: 7392 Location: Looking for a coach that can coach
RfE wrote:You weren't a lone voice. And as others have said that Leeds team coached itself - Mac went to Leeds as assistant, so far had his stock fallen, but landed the Head Coach job by default.
Wasn't he asst at Leeds, then came to us, then went back as the head coach?
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