Quite. If you look at the volume of bans (I think we're level top now, but with fewer games because most of ours are 1-2) and the range of bans they are always at the bottom ends of the scale. I think the worst ban we got this season was 3 for Mata'utia grabbing the collar of a player clearly faking an injury, although I understand why those have to be given. For all the hype this week and the campaign by Sky to get as many banned as possible, Saints are not a dirty side. There are no dirty players in that team. Saints haven't put a bad tackle in this season, not one. If you look at the Tetavano hit on Hurrell as an example of a bad tackle, there's been nothing anywhere near that. It's a shame the hype around the final descended to where it did and all being about Knowles, but in isolation that is simply not worthy of a ban. But that is where the MRP being so trigger happy leads us to, everyone spends the games making notes on who they want to demand gets banned. Lets go back to banning the dangerous ones.



I've watched it back three times now and I don't have a clue where any of those are. That shows how minor they were. Blake Austin also got away with two or three high shots and Martin's kick at Hurrell could have been looked at too, but we could be here all night with a contact sport like RL.



That one wasn't a ban, but you're always going to concede a penalty for that because of how spectacular the fall was. Live, everyone around us was saying red, a couple of Leeds fans saying it was definitely over now as he'd definitely get sent. Then they showed the replay and everyone forgot about it. His legs went almost vertical so it looks bad even though the contact with the ground was level and therefore legal. The only thing I'd question in that is control, I'm not sure Martin has any control over where he lands, but I'm happy with no ban.

It's interesting too that Myler got told off twice for faking impacts. The sport really needs to get a grip of that, it's becoming more and more like the Premier League by the week.

He gave you a penalty for it, such as you'd expect from a quality ref like Moore. He was brilliant again wasn't he, no controversy in the game at all and kept control of it superbly. It was like he wasn't even there and the game just flowed. Apart from the when the headset thing broke. I'm a firm believer in cracking on when that happens, going old school and using the flag and hand signals to attract the refs attention.

Can't believe you use the attendance argument. Population of Leeds end of 2021, 812,000 average crowd this season 12,940 with a high of 15,418. St. Helens population end of 2021 183,200 average crowd this season 11,701 with a high of 17,908. No doubt you could throw in Wigan and Warrington to the mix with a higher crowd per population. Do the maths.

Lomax also doing what he does laid in his hunches rubbing the back of his neck.

Campaign by sky

Oh and lomax goes down ‘injured’ as much as any other player so Saints aren’t squeaky clean in that front.

No dirty players? How many matches did Makinson get for grabbing a player by the nuts?

Moore was good so credit where it’s due.

He got powerbombed. That's going to hurt isn't it, even if it was a legal tackle.

Every time Leeds got anywhere near their 10 on Saturday, Makinson seemed to be on the deck to get the game stopped. Saints physios were on the field nearly as much as the players. I’ll give them their due though, they’re very clever at playing on the edge of cheating, and they’re good at it.

Lomax got smashed a few times, he took the ball in a lot. He's going to get injured, but yes, being clever and knowing when to stay down is a sport-wide problem, not specific to any one player or team. He didn't do that in the Martin incident though, he got hammered there, he's going to need a moment to collect his thoughts after that isn't he.

What Makinson did was a bit of a weird one I agree, but it's not dangerous. I'm sure there was no attempt to detach it.

End of season futile chatter.